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Butts McCokey
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I used to love xine and vlc is ok but slick it is not and when I tried to see if there were any new video players I found none! It's all the same stuff from 10 years ago - and they all look like they're from 10 years ago.
The media player I use on Windows is The Kmplayer. It's classy, slick, simple, easy to use but its advanced settings allows you to change everything (far more than vlc and probably on a par with mplayer). Even Windows Media Player does a better job that lots of the stuff out there.
Maybe I have been out of the loop for too long.
Maybe someone can cut down XBMC into a nice media player?
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I never liked xine, but then I'm OK with VLC.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| SMplayer is good. The only thing it doesn't do well is DVD menus. For that use VLC. VLC even plays DVD .iso files. |
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arnvidr
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I use pure mplayer. No interface at all, nothing you can claim is not slick 
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vlc comes with its own problems - sometimes it remains running (but not playing) in the background even after I have quit from the interface.
mplayer has a good interface in smplayer, but then which mplayer would you choose? mplayer? mplayer2? mpv? Only the last one can comes with ready to use vaapi acceleration that is needed for playing HD videos decently in intel graphics. But it doesn't work with smplayer 
xine is something I hadn't checked in a year or two. But it seems it finally has vaapi acceleration since last May, which is very nice. Not sure what player has a good interface to this.
Most of the players from gnome/kde are either really dumbed down, or they have massive dependencies, or are really ugly.
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| ppurka wrote: | vlc comes with its own problems - sometimes it remains running (but not playing) in the background even after I have quit from the interface.
mplayer has a good interface in smplayer, but then which mplayer would you choose? mplayer? mplayer2? mpv? Only the last one can comes with ready to use vaapi acceleration that is needed for playing HD videos decently in intel graphics. But it doesn't work with smplayer
xine is something I hadn't checked in a year or two. But it seems it finally has vaapi acceleration since last May, which is very nice. Not sure what player has a good interface to this.
Most of the players from gnome/kde are either really dumbed down, or they have massive dependencies, or are really ugly. |
There's SMPlayer2 for mplayer2. And VLC is a big buggy POS that was never the same since they dumped the wxwidgets interface and rewrote the whole thing from scratch. |
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ppurka
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | ppurka wrote: | | mplayer has a good interface in smplayer, but then which mplayer would you choose? mplayer? mplayer2? mpv? Only the last one can comes with ready to use vaapi acceleration that is needed for playing HD videos decently in intel graphics. But it doesn't work with smplayer |
There's SMPlayer2 for mplayer2. And VLC is a big buggy POS that was never the same since they dumped the wxwidgets interface and rewrote the whole thing from scratch. |
I used mplayer2 with smplayer very well on nvidia graphics - until I got a new machine with intel graphics. That's when I had to stop using mplayer2/smplayer combo - lack of vaapi.
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| mplayer with urxvt or any term you love is slick as hell, specially with zsh option auto-complete. |
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| I use smplayer. I'm curious, though: what is the big difference between mplayer and mplayer2? Is the latter significantly better? If hardware matters, I run a hexcore AMD CPU with a GTX 550 Ti. |
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| sporkbox wrote: | | I use smplayer. I'm curious, though: what is the big difference between mplayer and mplayer2? Is the latter significantly better? If hardware matters, I run a hexcore AMD CPU with a GTX 550 Ti. |
http://www.mplayer2.org/differences/ |
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reading that I seriously ask myself why anybody would prefer mplayer and its frontends over xine or vlc.
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I use vlc in windows and os x. It works for me.
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Butts McCokey
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smplayer looks ok but is hardly slick and new looking. Why are the icons so incredibly fugly? Why does no media player basic theme in linux look like it was created after 1995?
I have to spend half an hour downloading special icons from deviant art and extracting themes for it!
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Butts McCokey
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| dmitchell wrote: | | I use vlc in windows and os x. It works for me. |
If I use any theme apart from the basic one it goes fullscreen on a different screen. Themes only fullscreen to window 1. How retarded is that?
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| cokehabit wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | I use vlc in windows and os x. It works for me. |
If I use any theme apart from the basic one it goes fullscreen on a different screen. Themes only fullscreen to window 1. How retarded is that? |
well, really retarded, if you ask me. Using themes on a videoplayer, that is.
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Butts McCokey
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| energyman76b wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | I use vlc in windows and os x. It works for me. |
If I use any theme apart from the basic one it goes fullscreen on a different screen. Themes only fullscreen to window 1. How retarded is that? |
well, really retarded, if you ask me. Using themes on a videoplayer, that is. |
even when the basic ones look shit? Using something that could look and act a lot better than it does is even more retarded
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| I came across ROSA player, from the ROSA linux distro. Another mplayer front end but quite nicer than fugly smplayer. GUI seems to match current KDE development instead of looking like eye sore. |
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I use KPlayer (using a homebrew kplayer-9999 ebuild). It looks OK and does what I need it to do. *shrug*
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Butts McCokey
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| Sir Link wrote: | | I use KPlayer (using a homebrew kplayer-9999 ebuild). It looks OK and does what I need it to do. *shrug* |
Well I have found that smplayer does pretty much everything I want it to. I just wish I could make it look good.
kmplayer is as bad as Totem
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| try UMPlayer |
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VLC sucks anymore. I just use Windows Media Player. With the K- Lite Codec Pack, everything just works.
As far as Linux is concerned, VLC was always my preferred choice, but if it is anything like it's Windows cousin, I don't know.
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Butts McCokey
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| Old School wrote: | VLC sucks anymore. I just use Windows Media Player. With the K- Lite Codec Pack, everything just works.
As far as Linux is concerned, VLC was always my preferred choice, but if it is anything like it's Windows cousin, I don't know. |
try The Kmplayer. It's what I've used in windows for ages. They've added an annoying browser to it but you can disable that by putting | Code: | | 127.0.0.1 player.kmpmedia.net |
in your c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/host file
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | | well, really retarded, if you ask me. Using themes on a videoplayer, that is. |
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I use mpv with vdpau output, which is a fork of both mplayer and mplayer2.
Config file.
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#video options
vo=vdpau:hqscaling=1:fps=60
hwdec=vdpau
#vf=scale,pp=ac
#sws=9 #lanczos3
#audio options
alang=jpn
#subtitle options
mkv-subtitle-preroll
slang=en
#screenshot options
screenshot-format=png
screenshot-png-compression=0
#etc
brightness=0
contrast=0
hue=0
saturation=0
gamma=0
no-joystick
no-osc
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lol config file
any video player that needs a config file to be usable is an instant failure.
I don't want to 'configure' a video player - I want it to play media. With sensible defaults.
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