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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject: KDE : intel915 - xorg.conf absent dans etc/X11/ |
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Salut,
Je cherche depuis plusieurs semaines comment régler ce soucis mais je dois avouer que maintenant je coince.
J'ai suivi cette doc pour installer gentoo :
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1
Puise celle là pour xorg
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xorg/Configuration/fr
et malheureusement je n'ai pas de fichier / dossier xorg dans /etc/X11
lorsque je lance startx, ça se lance, je quitte le mode console pour arriver sur l'écran de config de kde mais ça dure 3s et paf ça crash
Quote: | xauth: file /root/.serverauth.21457 does not exist
X.Org X Server 1.14.3
Release Date: 2013-09-12
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 x86_64 Gentoo
Current Operating System: Linux ameller-gentoo 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 14 10:08:52 Local time zone must be set--see zic x86_64
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=gentoo ro root=803
Build Date: 15 October 2013 03:05:14PM
Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Oct 15 15:34:06 2013
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
Initializing built-in extension XTEST
Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
Initializing built-in extension SYNC
Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
Initializing built-in extension RENDER
Initializing built-in extension RANDR
Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
Initializing built-in extension RECORD
Initializing built-in extension DPMS
Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
Initializing built-in extension XVideo
Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
Initializing built-in extension DRI2
Loading extension GLX
startkde: Starting up...
Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kded(21539): Communication problem with "kded" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.
xinit: connection to X server lost
waiting for X server to shut down (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
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Dans le fichier make.conf j'avais mit dans le flags VIDEO_CARDS : "intel i915" comme indiqué ici :
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel
finalement après recherche on dit de mettre seulement "intel" par exemple ce tuto que j'ai suivi mis à part au niveau du xorg car absent ...
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/tutorial-getting-the-intel-driver-to-work-in-gentoo-871596/#post4307024
J'ai essayé de faire moi même un xorg.conf placé dans /etc/X11 en cherchant des xorg tout fait, en ne mettant que la partie cards comme conseillé quelque part sur ce thread :
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-889962-start-0.html
que j'ai trouvé ici :
http://gentoo-en.vfose.ru/wiki/Intel_GMA
Enfin bref j'ai parcouru tout google, mon niveau d'anglais a monté de niveaux, mais kde refuse de de se lancer..
J'espère que quelqu'un parmi sera susceptible de m'égayer vers une marche à suivre, une solution ou que sais-je...
Je vous remercie.. ! |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Location: Milky Way > Solar System > Earth > France > Paris > Home
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Salut !
Tu n'as besoin d'aucun fichier xorg.conf. Les nouvelles versions de serveur X déterminent automatiquement les paramètres qui vont bien.
Pour que ton kde fonctionne, je crois qu'il faut que tu rajoutes une ligne du style :
dans un fichier .xinit ou .Xsession (je sais plus lequel) dans ton home.
Aussi, dans ton make.conf :
Code: | VIDEO_CARDS="intel" |
suffit ! _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Oh punaise...
y'a pas une doc quelque part à jour ? ...
donc je rajoute ce petit bout à la fin d'un des deux fichiers cités et c'est tout ?
également comme j'ai bidouillé un peu tout et n'importe quoi au niveau xorg, y'a t il une commande pour nettoyer ? est ce qu'en faisaint un emerge --ask xorg-server tous les ficihers sont "nettoyés" ?
en tout cas merci beaucoup...
edit : ah attendant ici : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/fr/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
c'est la partie 2.4 que tu me demandes de faire ? si oui c'est déjà fait ça
par contre je le fais en root je crois ça change quelque chose ? |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Location: Milky Way > Solar System > Earth > France > Paris > Home
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tu peux tout simplement supprimer ton xorg.conf dans /etc/X11.
Ensuite, c'est ou l'un ou l'autre fichier que tu dois éditer, pas les deux. Effectivement, il s'agit bien du 2.4 du lien que tu donnes.
Et oui, ça change quelque chose si tu le fais en root. Parce que je suppose que tu essaie de lancer KDE avec ton compte utilisateur. Hors si tu le fais en root, ~/.xinitrc, c'est /root/xinitrc. Hors toi, c'est /home/tonuser/.xinitrc que tu dois éditer. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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StinGer_Uesugi wrote: | Tu peux tout simplement supprimer ton xorg.conf dans /etc/X11.
Ensuite, c'est ou l'un ou l'autre fichier que tu dois éditer, pas les deux. Effectivement, il s'agit bien du 2.4 du lien que tu donnes.
Et oui, ça change quelque chose si tu le fais en root. Parce que je suppose que tu essaie de lancer KDE avec ton compte utilisateur. Hors si tu le fais en root, ~/.xinitrc, c'est /root/xinitrc. Hors toi, c'est /home/tonuser/.xinitrc que tu dois éditer. |
mais il me semble avoir modifier d'autres fichier xorg genre dans /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (j'étais désespéré...)
bon je tenterais avec un user alors |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Location: Milky Way > Solar System > Earth > France > Paris > Home
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Haa, là ça va être plus dur. Si tu ne te souviens pas de ce que tu as changé, la seule option pour retrouver les fichiers par défaut sera de reconstruire les paquets X qui vont bien.
Si tu fais un equery belongs sur tous les fichiers de xorg.conf.d, tu auras la liste. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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ouki ça marche
si je fais un rm sur ce dossier et que je refais mon emerge du paquet xorg ça peut le faire aussi ? |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Oui, aussi. Mais c'est un peu saaaaaaaaaaaaale. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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^^
c'est une machine test et tant que ça marche...
je reviens donner des news dès que c'est fait, merci en tout cas pour ton aide Stinger! |
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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:21 am Post subject: |
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bon alors :
j'ai supprimé le dossier xorg.conf.d et xorg.conf dans /etc/X11
j'ai réinstallé xorg et kde
dans make.conf j'ai bien qt3 qt4 et kde puis video_cards="intel"
dans le .xinitrc j'ai bien mit avec un mon user exec startkde
pour résumé j'ai suivi ces doc :
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xorg/Configuration/fr
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/fr/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE
quand je lance startx en mode user
Code: | xauth: file /home/gentoo/.serverauth.1920 does not exist
X.Org X Server 1.14.3
Release Date: 2013-09-12
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 x86_64 Gentoo
Current Operating System: Linux ameller-gentoo 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 14 10:08:52 Local time zone must be set--see zic x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=gentoo ro root=803
Build Date: 18 October 2013 08:03:57AM
Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Oct 18 09:15:04 2013
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
Initializing built-in extension XTEST
Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
Initializing built-in extension SYNC
Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
Initializing built-in extension RENDER
Initializing built-in extension RANDR
Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
Initializing built-in extension RECORD
Initializing built-in extension DPMS
Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
Initializing built-in extension XVideo
Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
Initializing built-in extension DRI2
Loading extension GLX
startkde: Starting up...
Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
kded(1983): Communication problem with "kded" , it probably crashed.
Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "
startkde: Shutting down...
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.
xinit: connection to X server lost
waiting for X server to shut down (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. |
mon make.conf
Code: | # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing.
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the
# profile used for building.
USE="dri sna opengla52 aac acpi alsa branding cairo cdr dbus dts dvd dvdr emboss encode exif fam firefox flac gif gpm gtk hal jpeg lcms ldap libnotify mad mikmod mng mp3
mp4 mpeg ogg opengl pango pdf png ppds qt3support qt4 sdl spell
startup-notification svg tiff truetype vorbis unicode usb X xcb x264 xml xv
xvid udev -glamor -uxa -xvnc bindist x kde -gnome hal -arts qt3 qt4 -gtk mmx sse sse2"
VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" |
que faire.......................?
edit : je me demande s'il ne faurait pas systemd plutôt que openrc ?? |
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boozo Advocate
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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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j'étais effectivement déjà tombé dessus et ça n'a pas marché ...
j'abandonne kde je vais mettre gnome...
merci en tout cas |
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guilc Bodhisattva
Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 3326 Location: Paris - France
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:50 am Post subject: |
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La comme ça, je dirais qu'il manque un petit "/etc/init.d/dbus start" tout simplement !
Et si c'est bien ça, n'oublie pas de l'ajouter au boot : "rc-update add dbus" _________________ Merci de respecter les règles du forum.
Mon site perso : https://www.xwing.info
Mon PORTDIR_OVERLAY : https://gentoo.xwing.info ou layman -a xwing |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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guilc wrote: | La comme ça, je dirais qu'il manque un petit "/etc/init.d/dbus start" tout simplement !
Et si c'est bien ça, n'oublie pas de l'ajouter au boot : "rc-update add dbus" |
+1
J'ai déjà eu ce problème et le démarrage de DBus a tout réglé. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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La solution, si c'est le cas, arrive trop tard
j'ai viré kde, j'ai mit gnome, il s'est lancé, j'avais un bureau. Je reboot et ça ne marche plus. Je peux tenter avec le dbus ? |
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xaviermiller Bodhisattva
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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DBus est quasi obligatoire pour les desktops actuels. Donc oui, ajoute-le dans les services par défaut. _________________ Kind regards,
Xavier Miller |
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Yoplai n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2013 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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le dbus était bien lancé
voilà l'erreur que j'ai :
Quote: | [ 14.113] (EE) No devices detected.
[ 14.113] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[ 14.113] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[ 14.113] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 14.113] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 14.113] (EE) |
c'est quoi l'astuce ?
ça marchait avant le reboot .. |
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xaviermiller Bodhisattva
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Est-ce que le noyau démarré a bien le support pour les pilotes intel ? _________________ Kind regards,
Xavier Miller |
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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: |
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les pilotes sont bien installé, et le noyau a bien ce qu'il faut niveau intel
par contre maintenant dans /etc/X11 je n'ai plus xorg.conf.d ... |
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Ce n'est pas ça qui peut empêcher X de démarrer, il n'y a dedans que des includes de configuration pour simplifier la vie. Sur le PC où j'utilise enlightenment:0.17, je n'en ai pas non plus et tout tourne sans problème.
Vérifie ton Xorg.0.log pour t'assurer qu'il trouve et charge bien le pilote. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ?
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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:15 am Post subject: |
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voilà le log
Code: | [ 1265.367]
X.Org X Server 1.14.3
Release Date: 2013-09-12
[ 1265.375] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 1265.377] Build Operating System: Linux 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 x86_64 Gentoo
[ 1265.379] Current Operating System: Linux ameller-gentoo 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 14 10:08:52 Local time zone must be set--see zic x86_64
[ 1265.379] Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=gentoo ro root=803
[ 1265.384] Build Date: 21 October 2013 08:58:20AM
[ 1265.387]
[ 1265.389] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
[ 1265.394] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 1265.394] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 1265.402] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 21 09:11:12 2013
[ 1265.415] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 1265.415] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 1265.415] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 1265.415] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 1265.415] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 1265.415] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 1265.415] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 1265.415] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 1265.415] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 1265.415] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
[ 1265.415] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
[ 1265.415] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 1265.415] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fec00
[ 1265.415] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 1265.415] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 1265.415] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[ 1265.415] X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[ 1265.415] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[ 1265.416] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[ 1265.417] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2772:1028:01ad rev 2, Mem @ 0xfeb00000/524288, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfeac0000/262144, I/O @ 0x0000e898/8
[ 1265.417] (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:2776:1028:01ad rev 2, Mem @ 0xfeb80000/524288
[ 1265.420] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[ 1265.422] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[ 1265.424] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[ 1265.426] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[ 1265.428] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[ 1265.430] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[ 1265.432] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[ 1265.433] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[ 1265.435] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[ 1265.437] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[ 1265.439] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[ 1265.440] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[ 1265.442] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[ 1265.444] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[ 1265.446] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[ 1265.447] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 1265.449] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 1265.450] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[ 1265.452] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[ 1265.453] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[ 1265.455] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[ 1265.456] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 1265.457] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 1265.459] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[ 1265.460] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[ 1265.461] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[ 1265.462] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 1265.462] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 1265.462] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 1265.462] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 1.0.0
[ 1265.462] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[ 1265.462] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 1265.464] Loading extension GLX
[ 1265.464] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 1265.464] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 1265.464] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 1265.464] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 1265.464] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 1265.464] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[ 1265.464] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[ 1265.464] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 1265.464] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 2.21.15
[ 1265.464] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 1265.464] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 1265.464] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 1265.465] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[ 1265.465] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 1265.465] (II) Unloading vesa
[ 1265.465] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 1265.465] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[ 1265.465] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[ 1265.465] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[ 1265.465] (II) Unloading modesetting
[ 1265.465] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 1265.465] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 1265.465] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[ 1265.465] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 1265.465] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.4.4
[ 1265.465] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 1265.465] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 1265.465] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G,
915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM,
Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics,
HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500,
HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600,
HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100,
HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200
[ 1265.466] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[ 1265.466] (--) using VT number 7
[ 1265.543] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[ 1265.543] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 1265.543] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[ 1265.544] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 1265.544] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.0.2
[ 1265.544] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 1265.544] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[ 1265.544] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[ 1265.544] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[ 1265.544] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 1265.544] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[ 1265.544] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 1265.544] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.0.2
[ 1265.544] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 1265.544] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[ 1265.544] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
[ 1265.544] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[ 1265.544] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 1265.544] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 1265.544] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file.
[ 1265.544] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[ 1265.544] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[ 1265.544] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 1265.544] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 1265.544] (EE)
[ 1265.557] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. |
fbdev ça correspond à .. ? |
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xaviermiller Bodhisattva
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Apparemment, il y a une touille dans la configuration du noyau.
Vérifie bien que tu y as mis le support pour le framebuffer intel (et rien qu'intel), et que le kernel mode setting est activé. _________________ Kind regards,
Xavier Miller |
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Yoplai n00b
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StinGer_Uesugi Tux's lil' helper
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Personnellement, dans mon Xorg.0.log, j'ai ça :
Code: | [ 10895.358] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 10895.358] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[ 10895.358] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 10895.359] (II) Unloading fbdev
[ 10895.359] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0) |
Je n'ai pas de module de framebuffer et tout fonctionne très bien. Pour moi, avec le kernel modsetting, il n'y a plus besoin de ce module (mais j'ai ptet mal compris). Essaie de faire un
Code: | equery belongs /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so |
Puis un :
Code: | equery uses NOM DU PAQUET TROUVÉ AU DESSUS |
Histoire de savoir si il n'y a pas un use flag peu trop zélé. _________________ Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly ? |
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Yoplai n00b
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Code: | equery belongs /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so |
> Code: | x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4 (/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so) |
Code: | equery uses x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4 |
> Code: | !!! No USE flags found for x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4 |
mon fichier make.conf
Code: | # These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before changing.
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided by the
# profile used for building.
USE="xorg xnest mod xvfb dri libkms libdrm sna minizip zlib opengla52 aac acpi alsa branding cairo cdr dbus dts dvd dvdr emboss encode exif fam firefox flac gif gpm gtk hal jpeg lcms ldap libnotify mad mikmod mng mp3 mp4 mpeg ogg opengl pango pdf png ppds sdl spell startup-notification svg tiff truetype vorbis unicode usb X xcb x264 xml xv xvid udev -glamor -uxa -xvnc bindist x gnome -arts mmx sse sse2"
VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev"
LINGUAS="fr" |
le fichier # ./xorg.conf.new
Code: | Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
Screen 2 "Screen2" RightOf "Screen1"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor2"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
#Option "Backlight" # <str>
#Option "DRI" # <str>
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "Tiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "LinearFramebuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "SwapbuffersWait" # [<bool>]
#Option "TripleBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvPreferOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "HotPlug" # [<bool>]
#Option "ReprobeOutputs" # [<bool>]
#Option "ZaphodHeads" # <str>
#Option "TearFree" # [<bool>]
#Option "PerCrtcPixmaps" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # <str>
#Option "Backlight" # <str>
#Option "DRI" # <str>
#Option "ColorKey" # <i>
#Option "VideoKey" # <i>
#Option "Tiling" # [<bool>]
#Option "LinearFramebuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "SwapbuffersWait" # [<bool>]
#Option "TripleBuffer" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvPreferOverlay" # [<bool>]
#Option "HotPlug" # [<bool>]
#Option "ReprobeOutputs" # [<bool>]
#Option "ZaphodHeads" # <str>
#Option "TearFree" # [<bool>]
#Option "PerCrtcPixmaps" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card1"
Driver "intel"
BusID "PCI:0:2:1"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz",
### <percent>: "<f>%"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "Rotate" # <str>
#Option "fbdev" # <str>
#Option "debug" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card2"
Driver "fbdev"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Card1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen2"
Device "Card2"
Monitor "Monitor2"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
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/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
Code: | #
# Catch-all evdev loader for udev-based systems
# We don't simply match on any device since that also adds accelerometers
# and other devices that we don't really want to use. The list below
# matches everything but joysticks.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "evdev pointer catchall"
MatchIsPointer "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "evdev"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "evdev keyboard catchall"
MatchIsKeyboard "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "evdev"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "evdev touchpad catchall"
MatchIsTouchpad "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "evdev"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "evdev tablet catchall"
MatchIsTablet "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "evdev"
EndSection
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "evdev touchscreen catchall"
MatchIsTouchscreen "on"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
Driver "evdev"
EndSection |
le Xorg.0.log
Code: | [ 25.386]
X.Org X Server 1.14.3
Release Date: 2013-09-12
[ 25.386] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[ 25.386] Build Operating System: Linux 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 x86_64 Gentoo
[ 25.386] Current Operating System: Linux ameller-gentoo 3.10.7-gentoo-r1 #1 SMP Mon Oct 14 10:08:52 Local time zone must be set--see zic x86_64
[ 25.386] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=gentoo ro root=803
[ 25.386] Build Date: 21 October 2013 11:10:16AM
[ 25.386]
[ 25.386] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2
[ 25.386] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[ 25.386] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 25.386] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 21 16:47:51 2013
[ 25.386] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[ 25.387] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section.
[ 25.387] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[ 25.387] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[ 25.387] (**) | |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[ 25.387] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[ 25.387] (==) Automatically adding devices
[ 25.387] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[ 25.387] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[ 25.387] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc/,
/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/OTF/,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
[ 25.387] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
[ 25.387] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[ 25.387] (II) Loader magic: 0x7fec00
[ 25.387] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 25.387] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[ 25.387] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[ 25.387] X.Org XInput driver : 19.1
[ 25.387] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[ 25.387] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[ 25.389] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2772:1028:01ad rev 2, Mem @ 0xfeb00000/524288, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfeac0000/262144, I/O @ 0x0000e898/8
[ 25.389] (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:2776:1028:01ad rev 2, Mem @ 0xfeb80000/524288
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[ 25.389] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[ 25.390] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[ 25.390] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[ 25.390] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[ 25.390] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 25.390] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 1.0.0
[ 25.390] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[ 25.390] (==) AIGLX enabled
[ 25.390] Loading extension GLX
[ 25.390] (==) Matched intel as autoconfigured driver 0
[ 25.390] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 1
[ 25.390] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[ 25.390] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[ 25.390] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[ 25.390] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[ 25.391] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[ 25.391] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 25.391] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 2.21.15
[ 25.391] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 25.391] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 25.391] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[ 25.391] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa
[ 25.391] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 25.391] (II) Unloading vesa
[ 25.391] (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 25.391] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[ 25.392] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module modesetting
[ 25.392] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[ 25.392] (II) Unloading modesetting
[ 25.392] (EE) Failed to load module "modesetting" (module does not exist, 0)
[ 25.392] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[ 25.392] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[ 25.392] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 25.392] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.4.4
[ 25.392] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[ 25.392] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 25.392] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G,
915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM,
Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics,
HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500,
HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600,
HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100,
HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200
[ 25.393] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[ 25.393] (++) using VT number 7
[ 25.466] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[ 25.466] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 25.466] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[ 25.466] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 25.466] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.0.2
[ 25.466] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 25.466] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[ 25.466] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[ 25.466] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[ 25.466] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 25.466] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[ 25.466] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 25.466] compiled for 1.14.3, module version = 0.0.2
[ 25.466] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[ 25.466] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[ 25.466] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support
[ 25.466] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[ 25.466] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 25.466] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 25.466] (EE) Device(s) detected, but none match those in the config file.
[ 25.467] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[ 25.467] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[ 25.467] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 25.467] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 25.467] (EE)
[ 25.474] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. |
quand je fais
/etc/init.d/xdm-setup restart
*Stopping gdm
*start-stop-daemon: fopen '\run/gdm/gdm.pid' : No such file or directory
si je fais un start il me dit qu'il est déjà démarré
pendant le boot j'ai un fail au niveau intel : failed to load intel
quand je fais Xorg-configure
Code: | List of video driverrs :
i915
intel
fbdev
(++) using config file : "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devicees
Configuration failed
(EE) Server terminated with error (2). Closing log file. |
je sais plus où donner de la tête |
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