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Marcinnnn n00b
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? |
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Hi,
I need distro with the most updated packages. What I see on distrowatch.com about gentoo http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gentoo is ok for me - and I have some previous experiences with Gentoo. However I have impression that what is 'current' in Gentoo repos states for 'stable' in distrowatch. How to find 'unstable' one? Which flag I should change? Just
Code: | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" |
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gerard27 Advocate
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 2377 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Yes.
I use it myself since about a year and a half.
But be prepared for occasional problems.
Unless you know portage inside out don't do it.
Install "mc" to browse and edit relevant files.
Good luck.
Gerard. _________________ To install Gentoo I use sysrescuecd.Based on Gentoo,has firefox to browse Gentoo docs and mc to browse (and edit) files.
The same disk can be used for 32 and 64 bit installs.
You can follow the Handbook verbatim.
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download |
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Marcinnnn n00b
Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Warsaw
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks! |
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? |
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Marcinnnn wrote: | I need distro with the most updated packages. |
Why?
Probably Arch, if you are happy with such bleeding-edges
Examples: giflib 5, libmng 2, libpng 1.6, gnutls 3.2.4 |
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Naib Watchman
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 6051 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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why take notice of what distrowatch says?
and gentoo is as stable as you want it to be. _________________
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54232 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Marcinnnn,
The portage tree contains stable, testing, and a few "its so new, its not keyworded yet" packages.
There are also "live" ebuilds for some packages which download directly from the development repository.
To add to all that there are other repositories too.
Just how broken do your want your Linux to be?
You choose - Gentoo provides the tools to do it. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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snkmoorthy Guru
Joined: 19 Nov 2002 Posts: 376
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Global ~arch is a bad idea, install stable first and install applications which are in ~arch, for me this is one of the best features of Gentoo. |
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Naib Watchman
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 6051 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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snkmoorthy wrote: | Global ~arch is a bad idea, install stable first and install applications which are in ~arch, for me this is one of the best features of Gentoo. |
global ~arch isn't necessarily a bad idea *IF* you are willing to manage the occasional breakage _________________
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xaviermiller Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 8708 Location: ~Brussels - Belgique
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years. _________________ Kind regards,
Xavier Miller |
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GFCCAE6xF Apprentice
Joined: 06 Aug 2012 Posts: 295
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: |
Just how broken do your want your Linux to be?
You choose - Gentoo provides the tools to do it. |
Excellent, now where do I submit for official Gentoo slogans to?
XavierMiller wrote: | I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years. |
Same here, although not quite as long.
I imagine going full arch or ~arch would give the best results and that mixing the two (especially pulling whole DE's into stable for example) would be a much more of a chance for potential headaches. |
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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rorgoroth wrote: | submit for official Gentoo slogans |
How about: Gentoo - you get to keep the pieces™ |
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Ant P. Watchman
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 6920
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Gentoo unstable by distrowatch - how to get it? |
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PaulBredbury wrote: | [...] libmng 2, [...] |
Wow, seeing that get a new major version in the last month is a bit surprising. The changelog isn't all that impressive though. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54232 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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rorgoroth,
We have a fortune-mod cookie collection somewhere.
Its not been updated in a long time. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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keenblade Veteran
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 1087
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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rorgoroth wrote: |
XavierMiller wrote: | I'm in ~arch since the beginning and ~arch is really stable for at least 6 years. |
Same here, although not quite as long.
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Same here, using ~arch since 2004. It was really stable for all those years. The only catch is you compile more with ~arch, that is done while you are sleeping. But that made me feel like genious, at the beginning. I still like to watch that compiler output _________________ Anyway it's all the same at the end...
Need help to get it working: "x-fi surround 5.1" |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54232 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Team,
I've used ~arch everywhere since 2002. Thats ~x86, ~amd64, ~sparc, ~arm and even a little ~ppc64.
From time to time it can bite you in the bum. expat and modular xorg both come to mind.
However, it can can all be managed. Don't update when your box must work ... because now and again it might not.
Set FEATURES="buildpkg". This is no immediate help but it saves a binary of everything you emerge, so after a few months, its your 'get out of jail free' card, since you can downgrade with emerge -K=<package>/<version> without rebuilding anything. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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