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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:40 am    Post subject: The big story of the week Reply with quote

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Even in the middle of yet another crisis in the unhappy Middle East, Americans need to keep their eyes on the countries in which humanity’s fate in the 21st century will be hammered out. Land policy in India is a bigger deal than sectarian politics in Syria; we need to keep our eyes on the big picture.

http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/08/31/why-syria-isnt-the-big-story-this-week/
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

India has no oil, only brown people.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The American Interest.
Walter Russell Mead.
Hm...

Anyway, the Indian government is incompetent, corrupt isn't news. Falling currency could be good for Indian businesses because it could benefit our exports (like sophisticated mangoes, that we exchange for Harley Davidson motorcycles) but the Food Security Bill, The Land Reform Bill and various "pleas" from the finance minister, prime minister to cut down our petrol/diesel consumption and the petroleum ministries proposal to shutdown petrol stations for 12hrs in the night are far more ... er.. I can't find the right word... fill it in yourself.

And the tragedy is, this government is going to be re-elected in 2014. So, yeah.. India is doomed.

Oh, and we stopped importing oil from Iran at the behest of our American friends, who gave us one Boeing C17 Globemaster aircraft last week in return. And any deficit we make by buying expensive oil from the Saudis cannot be offset by importing from Iran because "teh Axis of evil WMD ZOMG syndrome." And American sanctions.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Falling currency could be good for Indian businesses because it could benefit our exports (like sophisticated mangoes, that we exchange for Harley Davidson motorcycles) ...

How much will Indian exports go up?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, exactly. The Chinese word for threat and opportunity is same. The Indian word for threat and opportunity is "oh bhenchod." **

This could've been a blessing in disguise for us but we don't have anything to export. Except maybe pharmaceuticals, mangoes and Jaguar.

Hang on, India is exporting petroleum products? Huh? Methane? Is it exporting methane?

** Not really. That is a curse word.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In India the government has wide powers of eminent domain. Without the convenience of government organization and its powers of eminent domain to force unwilling holdouts to sell, it would difficult if not impossible for private organizations to get the land for big projects. It’s not at all clear that a “free market” in land would lead to anything but the forced dispossession of hundreds of thousands and even millions of poor farmers and their families.

Anyone else do a double take when you read this? The problem of forced dispossession is solved by eminent domain? Say what?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Yeah, exactly. The Chinese word for threat and opportunity is same. The Indian word for threat and opportunity is "oh bhenchod." **

This could've been a blessing in disguise for us but we don't have anything to export. Except maybe pharmaceuticals, mangoes and Jaguar.

Hang on, India is exporting petroleum products? Huh? Methane? Is it exporting methane?

** Not really. That is a curse word.
There's a worship of cows, which if allowed to breed in significantly higher numbers than can be culled will cause the ozone layer to something something. As one wit said, "Kill them before they fart and everything will be OK".

Actually, there is stuff on the interwebs (Peer reviewed? Maybe.) which contends that termites have the biggest global output of methane.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmitchell wrote:
WRM wrote:
In India the government has wide powers of eminent domain. Without the convenience of government organization and its powers of eminent domain to force unwilling holdouts to sell, it would difficult if not impossible for private organizations to get the land for big projects. It’s not at all clear that a “free market” in land would lead to anything but the forced dispossession of hundreds of thousands and even millions of poor farmers and their families.

Anyone else do a double take when you read this? The problem of forced dispossession is solved by eminent domain? Say what?


Yeah, it's a bit weird to claim that officials are corrupt so they should get power to force you to sell land, to protect you from vile capitalists (to which you don't want to sell land so they are unable to build their big project).

I mean weird like "doesn't make sense", not weird like "something you don't see every day". Sadly.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahenobarbi wrote:
dmitchell wrote:
WRM wrote:
In India the government has wide powers of eminent domain. Without the convenience of government organization and its powers of eminent domain to force unwilling holdouts to sell, it would difficult if not impossible for private organizations to get the land for big projects. It’s not at all clear that a “free market” in land would lead to anything but the forced dispossession of hundreds of thousands and even millions of poor farmers and their families.

Anyone else do a double take when you read this? The problem of forced dispossession is solved by eminent domain? Say what?


Yeah, it's a bit weird to claim that officials are corrupt so they should get power to force you to sell land, to protect you from vile capitalists (to which you don't want to sell land so they are unable to build their big project).

I mean weird like "doesn't make sense", not weird like "something you don't see every day". Sadly.
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I also fail to see how this reaches the level of "international concern" and certainly not more so than Syria. MAYBE an argument could be made if it were about government corruption, but certainly not their real estate.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no. The story of the week is still Miley Cyrus twerking.
Oh, and George Zimmerman was pulled over for speeding again.

Most importantly of all, the story of the week is NOT the U.S. Government spying on innocent citizens, or any of the rest of the stack of scandals that had been plaguing the Obama Administration.

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