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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:28 am    Post subject: Tesla's battery problem? Reply with quote

At Current Rates, Tesla Could Soon Suck Up Worldwide Supply of Li-Ion Cells
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kill it. Kill it now, before it kills all the phones.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good. Cell phones are evil.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tesla song.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://xkcd.com/605/
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What?


Oh! I get it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
http://xkcd.com/605/
Yeah, it is so unlikely they could double sales. LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh, "battery" might not be the best way to deal with electric cars...
A fuel-cell (with some means to generate the Hydrogen) or a supercap would be better
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hoping Tesla (or someone wanting to sell to Tesla and others) will come up with the next solution. Either an alternative or an improved battery. Necessity is now trying to get Invention to put down the game controller and get off the couch.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
richk449 wrote:
http://xkcd.com/605/
Yeah, it is so unlikely they could double sales. LOL

No, it is so unlikely that battery production will remain fixed when demand for batteries increases. You know, supply and demand and all.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shortages never happen before supply increases.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Shortages never happen before supply increases.


Yep, it is possible that at some point in the future, there will be a shortage of LiIon batteries. You know what else we might possibly have a shortage of in the future? Everything.

Really fascinating analysis.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Shortages never happen before supply increases.

"never" is such a harsh word.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richk449 wrote:
Everything.

Really fascinating analysis.
Yes, I can't imagine how long it took you to come to that conclusion.


Prenj wrote:
"never" is such a harsh word.
That was my point in response to richk449's comment. Shortages happen all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
I'm hoping Tesla (or someone wanting to sell to Tesla and others) will come up with the next solution. Either an alternative or an improved battery. Necessity is now trying to get Invention to put down the game controller and get off the couch.


This is who I was cheering for during the Automotive bailouts. ...Also Ford (for not needing any bailouts) and Toyota (for having plants in Alabama and being 'an American automaker'.)
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