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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:06 am    Post subject: ACLU lawsuit, scientist demolishes NSA on Metadata Reply with quote

In ACLU lawsuit, scientist demolishes NSA’s “It’s just metadata” excuse

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When the scandal about the National Security Agency (NSA) leaks first broke, one of the government's talking points quickly became that its giant database of domestic phone calls was simply "metadata."

"Nobody is listening to your telephone calls," said President Barack Obama a few days after the program became public. "That’s not what this program’s about... by sifting through this so-called metadata, they may identify potential leads with respect to folks who might engage in terrorism."

Privacy activists noted that the "metadata" held plenty of private information. Just six days after the Snowden NSA leaks revealed that the government was collecting essentially all telephone call "metadata," the ACLU filed a new lawsuit challenging the practice as unconstitutional.

Yesterday, the ACLU filed a declaration by Princeton Computer Science Prof. Edward Felten to support its quest for a preliminary injunction in that lawsuit. Felten, a former technical director of the Federal Trade Commission, has testified to Congress several times on technology issues, and he explained why "metadata" really is a big deal.

Storage and data-mining have come a long way in the past 35 years, Felten notes, and metadata is uniquely easy to analyze—unlike the complicated data of a call itself, with variations in language, voice, and conversation style. "This newfound data storage capacity has led to new ways of exploiting the digital record," writes Felten. "Sophisticated computing tools permit the analysis of large datasets to identify embedded patterns and relationships, including personal details, habits, and behaviors."

There are already programs that make it easy for law enforcement and intelligence agencies to analyze such data, like IBM's Analyst's Notebook. IBM offers courses on how to use Analyst's Notebook to understand call data better.


I think I am preaching to the choir here, but I wanted to reiterate why this is important.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bush administration made us take off our shoes. The Obama administration nukes us to get nudie pictures and fingers our mothers and daughters.

The Bush administration eaves dropped on international phone calls to known terrorist connected phone numbers. The Obama administration taps all of our phones, reads our emails, and grabs all of our social media information.

The left went ape shit when Bush was in office, and they don't seem to be up in arms about Obama.

Fekking hypocrites.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muso wrote:
The Bush administration eaves dropped on international phone calls to known terrorist connected phone numbers.
Well... I'm not willing to make that claim. But your main point still stands:

Muso wrote:
The left went ape shit when Bush was in office, and they don't seem to be up in arms about Obama.

Fekking hypocrites.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole "metadata" discussion is a smoke screen. The NSA records and analyses everthing, including the conversation. They capture everything they can get, because they are just paranoid morons. They did that during Bush and they still do. They are just part of the USA, the worst terrorists of the world.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildhorse wrote:
The whole "metadata" discussion is a smoke screen. The NSA records and analyses everthing, including the conversation. They capture everything they can get, because they are just paranoid morons. They did that during Bush and they still do. They are just part of the USA, the worst terrorists of the world.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to think of us as the most successful terrorists in the world.
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