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Dippmopser
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:51 am    Post subject: Gnome installed in an old version? Reply with quote

Hello today I did a fresh installation of gentoo (again) and installed with gnome following this guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnome-config.xml

That went really well and everything worked out of the box. Yay :D

Now when reading the forums I see people talking about gnome 3.6 and 3.8.

When entering

Code:
gnome-about --gnome-version


It tells me:

Code:

Version: 2.32.1
Distributor: Gentoo
Build Date: 08/18/13



Why is that?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://packages.gentoo.org/category/gnome-base

You are running stable version, they are running unstable (testing) versions. Having seen Gnome 3 on an Ubuntu installation, I would advise masking out Gnome 3.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the sticky thread

Quote:

GNOME 3.2 in Gentoo: answers to common general questions


in the meantime. So no stable version of gnome 3 for gentoo any time soon.

Well I installed Fedora 19 on another harddrive, which runs gnome 3.

I do not know if I like the "search for the application I want to run" thingy - may be nice to have on a tablet or on small displays where space for menus is limited. For my personal taste I like the menus of gnome 2 better, feels faster and I see what else is installed.

In gnome 3 this overview is missing somehow - or I have not figured out where I can see what applications are installed.

I cannot comment on stability though - have not tested long enough.

I read something about a bug with the color scheme and nvidia drivers or something, I am running nvidia drivers in fedora and have not noticed something odd so far.

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Dippmopser

PS: Maybe a Moderator could move these posts into the sticky thread mentioned above should they be more fitting there.

PPS: Fedora partitioning seems to have been developed by someone with sanity in short supply.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dippmopser wrote:
I read the sticky thread

Quote:

GNOME 3.2 in Gentoo: answers to common general questions


in the meantime. So no stable version of gnome 3 for gentoo any time soon.
Perhaps not.

Quote:
PS: Maybe a Moderator could move these posts into the sticky thread mentioned above should they be more fitting there.
Having just skimmed it, I am more inclined to consider that topic moribund and inquire with the gnome team regarding its future.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer,

I on my part skimmed the thread you provided and must confess, that I am not as proficient with the inner workings of gentoo, as would be required to fully understand everything discussed there.

Could you please be so kind, to sum up in one or two sentences, what was decided regarding gnome and what consequences are about to follow.

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Dippmopser

PS: What is meant when the term "upstream or upstreaming" is used, I am not sure I get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dippmopser wrote:
PS: What is meant when the term "upstream or upstreaming" is used, I am not sure I get it.

From a Gentoo-perspective, "KDE" is upstream, "Gnome" is upstream. If there is an obvious bug in the sourcecode, it's upstream that should provide a fix.
The other way around: If a user reports a bug to e.g. kde through bugs.kde.org, and it turns out that there was a malicious patch applied in an ebuild that triggers the behaviour, the kde-dev talks about "Gentoo" as "downstream".
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently Gnome 3.x is unstable. We're working to make Gnome 3.8.x stable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The objection that I and many others have is that Gnome 3 like Windows 8 is more appropriate to a cell phone than a desktop or laptop computer. There is a project called MATE that is forking Gnome 2. Unfortunately, zenity and gobject-introspection, necessary to Gnome 2 block it's installation, so you have to abandon Gnome 2 to try it. I'm working on my own desktop that mimics Windows 95 using wxGTK over X11. So far, I like the look and feel which probably means I'm violating some d**n software patent.


https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-896166-start-0.html
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