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 Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: Karl Pilkington. Genius or Idiot? |
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| He's a guy that I find hilarious. Ricky Gervais described him as "a genius who just sees the world differently and has no filter on what he says" |
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IMO, he's just a guy. Neither genius nor idiot, but definitely entertaining.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ricky wrote: | | Tell me everything you know about Anne Frank |
| Karl wrote: | | She was in a cupboard |
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slightly related, ever seen Liam Neeson's improv?
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Good actor in the appropriate part
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Based on 10 - 5, I had to go with idiot. Naturally I'm assuming he's not really an idiot, just a bad comedian. I suspect the link wasn't the best presentation style for his material.
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I've known funnier Germans.
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| pjp wrote: | | Based on 10 - 5, I had to go with idiot. Naturally I'm assuming he's not really an idiot, just a bad comedian. I suspect the link wasn't the best presentation style for his material. |
No, he's just like that. He's not acting or anything. He just sees the world differently from the rest of us |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Based on 10 - 5, I had to go with idiot. Naturally I'm assuming he's not really an idiot, just a bad comedian. I suspect the link wasn't the best presentation style for his material. |
No, he's just like that. He's not acting or anything. He just sees the world differently from the rest of us |
No, he's acting. Don't fall for the obvious gimmick, as charming as it might be.
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| Muso wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Based on 10 - 5, I had to go with idiot. Naturally I'm assuming he's not really an idiot, just a bad comedian. I suspect the link wasn't the best presentation style for his material. |
No, he's just like that. He's not acting or anything. He just sees the world differently from the rest of us |
No, he's acting. Don't fall for the obvious gimmick, as charming as it might be. |
He's just an ordinary fella. He was their producer on XFM and they gradually started putting him on their radio show |
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I know the back story, but he's definitely putting on an act. While the act might include quite a bit of his natural personality, he's intentionally playing the fool.
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| Muso wrote: | | I know the back story, but he's definitely putting on an act. While the act might include quite a bit of his natural personality, he's intentionally playing the fool. |
Do you think he can play anything else? He's obviously quite... "simple" |
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| Ricky Gervais wrote: | week one hundred and thirty-eight - September/October 2010
A Confession
Some people have correctly spotted that An Idiot Abroad is totally scripted. It took ages to write too. Each episode of The Office took us about 2 months to write but they were only 30 minutes long. This show is nearly an hour so each script took us about 3 and a half months to write. Casting was a lot harder too. Just finding that indian actor that looked like Bill Oddie took 8 weeks. It was also a bit embarrassing auditioning people and asking them to wrap their cocks round a walking stick. Still, it will all be worth it when Steve and I win all the BAFTAs again for writing and directing.
I'm a lot prouder of creating the "Pilkington" character (that's not his real name, of course), than I am of David Brent probably. (Although ironically, David Brent isn't a character at all. I am just like that in real life so I didn't have to write any lines for that one. In fact I didn't realise The Office was a sitcom at the time. The BBC just came to my place of work and filmed me selling paper. I've certainly milked becoming famous off the back of that lucky break, right?)
So yeah, Karl is completely fake. When you meet him off camera he's a bit like Steven Fry. We just get him to act dim to make money. All the podcasts and audiobooks were completely scripted too. If you listen carefully you can hear us turning the pages. The good thing about those were that we didn't have to learn the lines by heart as we weren't in vision. A lot easier than in An Idiot Abroad where Karl not only has to learn the whole script but often only gets one take because we only have all those extras for a few hours.
The tricky bit is when he's interviewed on radio and TV. We have to get the presenter in on it so they ask him the right questions. Luckily every single one has gone along with it and never given the secret away. Thanks. But I just thought it was time to come clean. I'm ashamed that I ever lied to you. Sorry.
"Karl" will find it difficult getting different roles in other scripted comedies and dramas as we have typecast him so much over the last few years, so please buy the audiobooks and DVDs as he will need the money.
I'm glad the charade is over as I won't need to pretend to find my best mate funny anymore. It's hard laughing at lines you've written yourself. Obviously I don't find him funny at all and we are not really friends. Thanks for watching all this time suckers, and well done to the really smart people who knew all this all along. You got me! You are brilliant.
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| cokehabit wrote: | | No, he's just like that. He's not acting or anything. He just sees the world differently from the rest of us |
I don't believe it, but I don't find him funny, regardless if he's truly an idiot or trying to pretend to be one.
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I think it's overplayed as well, and it's not that funny as Ricky Gervais claims to be. Gervais has some really good moments, like tearing it up at Oscars and stuff, but much of his other stuff is just cringeworthy and not in new and fresh way. To me, Eddie Izzard is way better at deconstructing things like society, religion, culture, etc. Maybe it's just personal preference thing.
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I don't get it at all, but I don't go around laughing at others inadequacies, which seems to be the thrust of the humour here.
And apart from the actual delivery of the lines, the words that any MC at the Oscars speaks are not in any way improvised or ad-libbed. It's a lovey fest with fake indignation at the feeble barbs. |
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| Prenj wrote: | | I think it's overplayed as well, and it's not that funny as Ricky Gervais claims to be. Gervais has some really good moments, like tearing it up at Oscars and stuff, but much of his other stuff is just cringeworthy and not in new and fresh way. To me, Eddie Izzard is way better at deconstructing things like society, religion, culture, etc. Maybe it's just personal preference thing. |
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| Muso wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | I think it's overplayed as well, and it's not that funny as Ricky Gervais claims to be. Gervais has some really good moments, like tearing it up at Oscars and stuff, but much of his other stuff is just cringeworthy and not in new and fresh way. To me, Eddie Izzard is way better at deconstructing things like society, religion, culture, etc. Maybe it's just personal preference thing. |
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that one was pure genius
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Indeed.
McKenna nailed it as well describing the "dominator culture".
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| Muso wrote: | Indeed.
McKenna nailed it as well describing the "dominator culture". |
Yeah, heres another one, the last bit about Clinton comes off even stronger nowadays in the light of recent developments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gE7r1CknQs
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| Prenj wrote: | | I think it's overplayed as well, and it's not that funny as Ricky Gervais claims to be. Gervais has some really good moments, like tearing it up at Oscars and stuff, but much of his other stuff is just cringeworthy and not in new and fresh way. To me, Eddie Izzard is way better at deconstructing things like society, religion, culture, etc. Maybe it's just personal preference thing. |
I like most of both 
Wasn't he the guy Ricky Gervais sent around the world and let him stay in the worst accommodations, using the worst way to travel and meet the strangest people? Like in the desert they could have used a land rover but he had to travel by camel...
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| disi wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | I think it's overplayed as well, and it's not that funny as Ricky Gervais claims to be. Gervais has some really good moments, like tearing it up at Oscars and stuff, but much of his other stuff is just cringeworthy and not in new and fresh way. To me, Eddie Izzard is way better at deconstructing things like society, religion, culture, etc. Maybe it's just personal preference thing. |
I like most of both
Wasn't he the guy Ricky Gervais sent around the world and let him stay in the worst accommodations, using the worst way to travel and meet the strangest people? Like in the desert they could have used a land rover but he had to travel by camel... |
Yep, that's the guy. That show was "An Idiot Abroad". He's also a regular on one of Gervais' older shows on the radio.
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| Prenj wrote: | | Muso wrote: | Indeed.
McKenna nailed it as well describing the "dominator culture". |
Yeah, heres another one, the last bit about Clinton comes off even stronger nowadays in the light of recent developments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gE7r1CknQs |
Brilliant, as expected.
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