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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The expression is "chock-full", not "chalked full". If you're going to live in England you owe it to the natives to learn the language.

Indeed. But have you heard the natives speak their language?[/quote]
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
The expression is "chock-full", not "chalked full". If you're going to live in England you owe it to the natives to learn the language.

Indeed. But have you heard the natives speak their language?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The NRA is quite offensive so teachers are entitled to ask him not to wear that shirt to school.
Is it the t-shirt or first amendment that scares you?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimedog can't handle anything that challenges his world view. To him, anyone who thinks differently or comes to a different conclusion is either stupid or uneducated.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guns in the classroom are stupid.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NRA t-shirt is not a gun, nor does the NRA support students bringing guns to class. Though there should be someone on campus that is combat firearms trained and carrying at all times. By the time the cops show up it is to late.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
juniper wrote:
The expression is "chock-full", not "chalked full". If you're going to live in England you owe it to the natives to learn the language.

Indeed. But have you heard the natives speak their language?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGDO-9hfaiI


they were irish gypsies in that clip. i can't believe how much of that I can understand now.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half of the UK is equally unintelligible in English. It's as bad as ebonics. Chav-land.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Queen's English
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Queen's English


Yuk.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, The Knowledge used to consist of moppeding around London with a map getting to know the streets in order to get a Black Cab licence.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
Muso wrote:
The Queen's English


Yuk.


I fink, like... all lat... I won lotsa 'udies..
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Muso wrote:
The Queen's English


Yuk.


i understand it all. that's certainly one positive about moving here. All those british crime movies don't need subtitles anymore!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
Muso wrote:
The Queen's English


Yuk.


i understand it all. that's certainly one positive about moving here. All those british crime movies don't need subtitles anymore!

I think sometimes all that is needed is active listening and the judicious use of a cotton bud (cue tip) to the aural canal.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still not as bad as our affliction: Ebonics.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently in a show of solidarity and/or protest, several other students showed up with the same shirt.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apparently in a show of solidarity and/or protest, several other students showed up with the same shirt.

Bullshit. It's students trying to get laid/on tv/both by proving how brave they are by wearing a divisive shirt. Reactionaries have pounced on the story of these children for their own agendas. I don't get why children would have more rights that the adults that are charged with their protection, seems a little silly to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i understand it all. that's certainly one positive about moving here. All those british crime movies don't need subtitles anymore!


The yuk was more an indication that the chavvyness is strong in that one.

Ever taken a strong Black Country twang in ?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pjp wrote:
Apparently in a show of solidarity and/or protest, several other students showed up with the same shirt.

Bullshit. It's students trying to get laid/on tv/both by proving how brave they are by wearing a divisive shirt. Reactionaries have pounced on the story of these children for their own agendas. I don't get why children would have more rights that the adults that are charged with their protection, seems a little silly to me.

If that school has already been suspending students for wearing, say, a Che Guevera T-shirt, or a "Legalize Marijuana" T-shirt, or a "My Body My Choice" T-shirt, then suspending this student is consistent and fair. If not, then they've got no business suppressing this particular child's expression.

The children don't have "more rights than the adults". They do have have a right to freedom of speech, to the extent it doesn't interfere with the rights of others. The idea that a NRA t-shirt is somehow a "disruption" is nonsense. What this is about is the liberal public education system indoctrinating children with collectivist authoritarian values to an extreme and unreasonable degree such that even an image of a firearm or the word "gun" is some kind of horrific taboo (while promoting butt-fucking is a sacred right), one child pushing back against that without actually doing anything wrong, and some educators taking umbrage at that fact and trying to force him into submission to the collectivist authoritarian agenda.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would have happened if you had worn a political protest T-shirt as a protest at your high school and were refused to take it off?

US kids are so spoilt, it's no wonder they end up so entitled.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What would have happened if you had worn a political protest T-shirt as a protest at your high school and were refused to take it off?

US kids are so spoilt, it's no wonder they end up so entitled.

It's not what happened because he refused that's the real issue; it's that he was told to take it off. If a student refuses to follow the legal and reasonable instructions of faculty members, they should be disciplined and, if necessary, suspended or expelled. The question is whether the instruction was legal and reasonable.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She sound's like Dave Lister. I think I need to go back and watch all the episodes of Red Dwarf with my newfound appreciation for the rich cultural heritage which he obviously represents.
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What's wrong with having a dress code and expecting students to follow it?
The student in question was following the dress code.
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Logan County Schools' dress code, which is posted on the school system's website, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexually suggestive phrases. Clothing displaying advertisements for any alcohol, tobacco, or drug product also is prohibited.
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If that school has already been suspending students for wearing, say, a Che Guevera T-shirt, or a "Legalize Marijuana" T-shirt, or a "My Body My Choice" T-shirt, then suspending this student is consistent and fair. If not, then they've got no business suppressing this particular child's expression.
"Legalize Marijuana" directly violates the dress code. Che Guevera may violate the dress code, depending on your interpretation, in regards to "displaying violence". "My Body My Choice" would not violate the dress code.
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Bullshit.
You may be correct, but there are plenty of stories about students acting more maturely than people expect.
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