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Which Java vendor? |
dev-java/icedtea-bin |
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dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin |
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dev-java/sun-jdk |
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7% |
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dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin |
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theMerge Apprentice
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 158 Location: Little Elm, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: Recommends for Java Vendor |
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So I need to (gulp) install Java. UGH!
Anyone recommend a version that is the least evil. Is the icedtea version feature rich enough? Do I have to use the one provide by the evil empire (Oracle)?
Thanks. _________________ [Insert favorite Ghandi quote here] |
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Kollin Veteran
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 1139 Location: Sofia/Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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icedtea
Eclipse works better with oracle _________________ "Dear Enemy: may the Lord hate you and all your kind, may you be turned orange in hue, and may your head fall off at an awkward moment."
"Linux is like a wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside..." |
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MustrumR n00b
Joined: 15 Nov 2011 Posts: 71 Location: Right here
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Avoid binary packages. |
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Goverp Veteran
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1973
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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IBM ships its JDK as the engine for their many WebSphere products, so you might expect it to (a) perform well when driving large-scale web/data servers, and (b) to get fixes relevant to that environment in a timely way. It's got a lot of corporate use.
At one time, Sun produced separate server and client (or end-user) versions of their JDK, differentiated by trading off fast start-up against long-term optimization, but I think Oracle only ship the one version - maybe there are configuration options to tune between the use patterns. It's by far the most commonly used by casual end-users, and particularly as the browser plugin - makes you wonder how Oracle have made such a shambles of its sandbox security.
AFAIK Eclipse uses its own compiler during development, providing extra hooks or data for debugging. I found it works as well with IBM or Oracle JDKs as run-time (IBM is one of the major contributors to Eclipse, and sells several WebSphere development environments based on Eclipse packaged with the IBM JDK.)
If you're concerned about the current round of Java security issues, AFAIK they're down to the browser sandbox environment, The intent is to let you run code written by unverified third parties downloaded onto your own machine without external checking (put like that, it sounds a bit insane). I don't believe any of them apply to server environments, where you should be running code of known provenance checked before deployment. I believe the problematic areas are in Java code (rather then the binary runtime), and is common to all JDKs, as they use the same Java code for the sandbox environment. They're differentiated in the binary runtime's approach to garbage collection, tuning, optimizations and whatever, not in the Java code shipped with the JDK.
I've not tried IcedTea; prefer mine warm with milk and sugar.
Declaration of interest: I used to work for IBM. _________________ Greybeard |
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LiamOS n00b
Joined: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 63 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: |
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I would use icedtea, but I used to have a few issues with it and firefox, so I'm using oracle.
I'd recommend using icedtea, but try oracle if it's not working perfectly. _________________ CFLAGS=" -O999999" |
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Dr.Willy Guru
Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 547 Location: NRW, Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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LiamOS wrote: | I would use icedtea, but I used to have a few issues with it and firefox, so I'm using oracle. |
What, is it lacking essential security holes? |
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