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 Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:32 pm Post subject: Obiwan Kenobi arrested again |
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Obiwan Kenobi accused of meth possession
| Quote: | | Obiwan Kenobi is back in the news again and not in a good way. |
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BonezTheGoon
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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So that's what they mean when they talk about the force!
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sikpuppy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:08 am Post subject: |
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If after that show anyone thought the lifestyle involved in being addicted to, or producing, meth was cool they are probably already producing or addicted to meth.
It's a fairly evil drug of choice. |
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pjp
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Since the end goal is money (for the dealer, not user), doesn't that make money worse?
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sikpuppy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | Since the end goal is money (for the dealer, not user), doesn't that make money worse? |
Nope. I can buy the means to stay alive using money. I don't see anything intrinsically evil about those that provide those means. I do think that selling drugs to addicts is fairly evil.
In any case, a lot of the middle level dealing of drugs of addiction here is not for cash, but for shopping lists of items which are burgled from houses. These items are then sold for cash. |
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | Nope. I can buy the means to stay alive using money. I don't see anything intrinsically evil about those that provide those means. I do think that selling drugs to addicts is fairly evil.
In any case, a lot of the middle level dealing of drugs of addiction here is not for cash, but for shopping lists of items which are burgled from houses. These items are then sold for cash. |
That kind of makes my point.
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sikpuppy
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| pjp wrote: | | sikpuppy wrote: | Nope. I can buy the means to stay alive using money. I don't see anything intrinsically evil about those that provide those means. I do think that selling drugs to addicts is fairly evil.
In any case, a lot of the middle level dealing of drugs of addiction here is not for cash, but for shopping lists of items which are burgled from houses. These items are then sold for cash. |
That kind of makes my point. |
My point is that money isn't evil in this case. It's the method used to gain it. My money is gained using methods that are not at all evil, and what I buy with it isn't evil. It's food, shelter....
I can't see money as being the root of all evil, but if you do I could sure use some more. I will put it to good use, I promise. |
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Muso
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You do realize that government prohibition is the sole cause for the ridiculous price of drugs? A kilogram of sugar costs more to produce than a kilogram of cocaine. The only reason why the cost of cocaine is thousands of percentages more expensive than sugar is because of law. Law cannot end the existence of reality, but it can, and often does, make reality more expensive. Every pensioner robbed to pay for that one hit of crack should be focusing their anger at the insipid laws that caused the problem.
lolgov, fuck you very much.
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