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Bones McCracker Veteran


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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:51 am Post subject: Airbus: Cracks Found in Nearly Every A380 Inspected |
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Der Fahrvergnügen ist kaputt?
Quote: | FRANKFURT — Airbus will need years to get past problems with wing cracks on its flagship A380 passenger jet, the executive vice president of programs at Airbus told a German magazine.
"This problem will keep us busy for years," weekly Der Spiegel quoted Tom Williams as saying in an article published on Sunday.
European air safety regulators last month ordered checks for A380 wing cracks for the entire superjumbo fleet after safety engineers found cracks in almost all planes inspected.
Airbus, the plane maker owned by EADS, has said a combination of design and manufacturing slips put too much stress on a handful of the 2,000 brackets that fix the exterior of each wing to the ribcage beneath.
The magazine said Williams aimed to present a solution for the problem in April, and Airbus will start installing new parts in planes by the end of the year. |
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warrens Apprentice


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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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opps! _________________ The BIGGER the GOVERNMENT, the smaller the citizen.
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It's a win-win! Just think of all the jobs created or saved! _________________ I can saw a woman in two, but you won't want to look in the box when I'm through.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Airfix aircraft... _________________ The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:52 am Post subject: |
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He's only pointing it out because it is US.
I too found the fuel smell disturbing. _________________ I can saw a woman in two, but you won't want to look in the box when I'm through.
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Nothing like the smell of aviation kerosene(sort of like napalm) in the morning. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
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roarinelk Guru


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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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sikpuppy wrote: | I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid. |
Thats because the air in the cabin is siphoned off of the low-pressure turbine in the engines (the so called "engine bleed air"). |
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John R. Graham Administrator


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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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True, but not on the 787, where no bleed air is used for cabin pressurization.
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The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).
It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.
Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.
You are not breathing unburned jet fuel, sorry. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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flysideways wrote: | The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).
It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.
Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.
You are not breathing unburned jet fuel, sorry. |
no, you are breathing unburned jet lubricant. Several times as toxic...  _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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Obviously it is operator error. _________________ The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.
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eeyrjmr n00b

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
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John-Boy Guru


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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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eeyrjmr wrote: | In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
Let me introduce you to the internet sir. _________________ Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood" |
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Old School Apprentice


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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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eeyrjmr wrote: |
Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
Just for your info, we have 2 certified pilots that are regulars on this forum. _________________ The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:09 am Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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energyman76b wrote: | In three days we got | Merged. _________________ I can saw a woman in two, but you won't want to look in the box when I'm through.
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Meanwhile Rheinmetall is no longer able to make real guns. _________________ "Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated, until defeat has been accepted as a reality." -- Bruce Lee |
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flysideways Apprentice

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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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eeyrjmr wrote: |
Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
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The extra chromosome is strong with this one. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:52 am Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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eeyrjmr wrote: | What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... | I don't know about your subject of concern, but there are at least a couple here who have demonstrated some knowledge beyond "wiki." _________________ I can saw a woman in two, but you won't want to look in the box when I'm through.
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: another Boeing just went down |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyNX6t19ND8 _________________ Study finds stunning lack of racial, gender, and economic diversity among middle-class white males
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