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BonezTheGoon
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Same story, different source.
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sikpuppy
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| Yes, that's just what my phone needs: for the OS to be an ARM build of the most bloated Linux distro. My compact car also needs a Chinese tractor motor because if I remove all the seats, electrics and trim it will fit. |
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energyman76b
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first link: crapload off stupid advertisement and business speak bullshit with ZERO actual information, which makes for a signal/noise ratio of 0/∞. Well done.
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sikpuppy
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| energyman76b wrote: | | first link: crapload off stupid advertisement and business speak bullshit with ZERO actual information, which makes for a signal/noise ratio of 0/∞. Well done. |
The BBC link is no better really, it's the Ubuntu site paraphrased with soundbites from Mr Ubuntu. Then someone speaks sense right at the end, but by then I would imagine less patient readers than me would have moved on to another page.
After using mini headlines including POWERFUL APPS and ADVANCED VOICE CONTROL there is a small paragraph at the bottom which speaks sense:
| Quote: | One analyst suggested the news would raise awareness of the Ubuntu system, but was sceptical about its chances of success.
"It's an impressive move by Ubuntu but ultimately I don't think it's a smart move," said Chris Green, principal technology analyst at Davies Murphy Group Europe.
"They are not the first company to try and drop a desktop operating system on a mobile device and nobody has ever been able to make it work. Microsoft tried to foist something that looked and felt like normal Windows on a mobile phone and they had to screw it up and develop a separate phone system.
"If you look at the platforms that thrive at the moment it's the ones that have diverged and had a platform designed for mobile on their mobile devices and a platform designed for conventional PCs on those." |
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notageek
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I posted it here because I felt the same. There's not a lot of information.
I figured, some of you have developer or at-least flamming experience on the issue at hand, so this could produce the information we are seeking.
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wswartzendruber
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| Why the hell should I use this over CyanogenMod? |
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aidanjt
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Why the hell should I use this over CyanogenMod? |
It has a usable toolchain? It's a full Linux distribution. Plug it into a monitor, keyboard, and mouse it becomes a full Ubuntu desktop machine.
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pjp
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From what little I follow Ubuntu, it seems like the founder wants to control Linux. Seems like a Bad Thing(TM).
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BonezTheGoon
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So long as they keep releasing their modifications and "progress" back into the FOSS community I don't see how he can hurt anything, and in fact I believe it is a "Good Thing" even though I don't use any of their stuff, nor do I plan to.
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notageek
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The thing that bothers me the most is, whether we're going to see any of the phones in the market.
This all seems like a POC for the sake of it.
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aidanjt
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| notageek wrote: | The thing that bothers me the most is, whether we're going to see any of the phones in the market.
This all seems like a POC for the sake of it. |
There's already one, the galaxy nexus.
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juniper
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| looks kind of nice to me. Can i try it? I have a galaxy nexus. |
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Voltago
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| In other news, Samsung will build a Tizen device, and there was also some talk of actual FirefoxOS phones. Should be interesting. How's the Gentoo phone coming along btw? |
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energyman76b
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| Voltago wrote: | | In other news, Samsung will build a Tizen device, and there was also some talk of actual FirefoxOS phones. Should be interesting. How's the Gentoo phone coming along btw? |
at the moment: 55kg without power supply - and growing.
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Boris27
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Also you need to assemble it yourself and on occasion all the parts will decide they magically don't fit together anymore.
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energyman76b
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| Boris27 wrote: | | Also you need to assemble it yourself and on occasion all the parts will decide they magically don't fit together anymore. |
newsflash: 65kg with power supply. 20minutes runtime
Not much worse than most smartphones after a year of usage.
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juniper
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| youtubes look nice. |
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