View previous topic :: View next topic |
Who will will the Drivers' Championship? |
Sebastian Vettel |
|
54% |
[ 6 ] |
Fernando Alonso |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
Lewis Hamilton |
|
18% |
[ 2 ] |
Jenson Button |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
Mark Webber |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
Michael Schumacher |
|
9% |
[ 1 ] |
Nico Rosberg |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
Felipe Massa |
|
9% |
[ 1 ] |
Kimi Raikkonen |
|
9% |
[ 1 ] |
Nico Hulkenberg |
|
0% |
[ 0 ] |
|
Total Votes : 11 |
|
Author |
Message |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:46 am Post subject: [f1 2012] |
|
|
Quote: | With the teams themselves complaining that this particular pre-season has proved as difficult to analyse as any in recent memory, interpreting the timesheets from Jerez and Barcelona is very much a mug's game.
Yet it would also be wrong to say that nothing was gleaned from the 12 days of action over the last month - in fact what we have established from the action in Spain is that next week's season-opener in Australia can't come too enough.
Lotus on the up, Ferrari on the slide, McLaren within striking distance of Red Bull...the new season looks set to be close - very. |
Sky Sports F1 - The state of play after testing
First race is this weekend!
This thread is a continuation of these threads
2008
2009
2010
2011 _________________ He who calls for full employment calls for war!
Last edited by sugar on Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:17 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
pigeon768 l33t

Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 675
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
I think it's most likely to be Vettel unless McLaren manage to get a car worth driving out on the track. Regardless of what McLaren is saying about how good their car is this year I don't believe they'll have a car that can keep pace with Red Bull.
Which is a damn shame. Vettel is so unutterably boring. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
ichbinsisyphos Guru


Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 547
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:37 am Post subject: |
|
|
Whoever is carried by the Austrian car. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:39 am Post subject: |
|
|
I think Mercedes is going to pull some magic out of the bag for Melbourne. Why else would they delay testing??? They are also downtalking their package. Question is...are they being straightforward or are they hiding something?
Lotus also looks very good. I agree on Ferrari that the car not only looks slow but also ugly... _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
pigeon768 l33t

Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 675
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
ichbinsisyphos wrote: | Whoever is carried by the Austrian car. | Austrians make cars? petrjanda wrote: | Why else would they delay testing??? | My guess is because their shit's broke. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
ichbinsisyphos Guru


Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 547
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
|
|
pigeon768 wrote: | ichbinsisyphos wrote: | Whoever is carried by the Austrian car. | Austrians make cars? | Yes, gas vans and formula one cars. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
ichbinsisyphos Guru


Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 547
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
Has anybody figured out what the hooked nose is about? And why does McLaren think they can get away without one? Is it some aerodynamic trick or just there to mount the wheel suspension higher? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Gusar Advocate

Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 2658 Location: Slovenia
|
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
ichbinsisyphos wrote: | Has anybody figured out what the hooked nose is about? |
As a safety measure, regulations demand the nose to be lower than last year. But only to a certain length. So the teams went "ok, we'll make the nose lower to meet regulations, but the rest of the car will remain at the same height as before". Resulting in this ugliness. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
Just got back from the Australia F1 GP qualifiers where my flying school was conducting joy flights(free tix yay) and so far my prediction that Mercedes have got something special this year proves to be true - schumi and rosberg had fastest times in Q2, but Macleren got the pole position in the end. Schumi usually has the best start in the race. I'm betting he's gonna be p2 or p3 in the first corner. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 686 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
|
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
pigeon768 wrote: | Austrians make cars? |
Hitlermobiles. With Josef Fritzl acting as chauffeur. _________________ People Of Love
Kindness Evokes Kindness
Peace Emits Positive Energy |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
disi Veteran


Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Out There ...
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
petrjanda wrote: | Just got back from the Australia F1 GP qualifiers where my flying school was conducting joy flights(free tix yay) and so far my prediction that Mercedes have got something special this year proves to be true - schumi and rosberg had fastest times in Q2, but Macleren got the pole position in the end. Schumi usually has the best start in the race. I'm betting he's gonna be p2 or p3 in the first corner. |
Q2 is the real judge of speed of a car. It bodes well for the mercs _________________ He who calls for full employment calls for war! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
disi wrote: | I hope Schumacher doesn't total his car in Australia  |
Gearbox problem, bumma. They really need to address the tyre degradation though. They got a fast car but if they cant drive it fast due to tyre problems, then they wont be able to compete. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
asturm Developer


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 6141 Location: Austria
|
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
Impressive race by Button.
It seems the Mercs' F-duct advantage delivers good qualifying results, only to then delay all the rest of the field during the race. _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: | Mercedes were the focus of controversy in Melbourne because of their DRS-operated 'F-duct' speed boost system.
I've been poking around near the car and it's clear how it works.
When the DRS overtaking aid opens on the rear wing, it reveals a hole in the endplates.
That allows the underneath of the front wing, which is at a low pressure, to suck air from there right through the car.
It goes down the endplates, along the lower beam wing, through some pipes and ducting in the cockpit, down the front wing pillars, into the front wing and out of a slots on the bottom of the front wing.
That reduces the front downforce of the car, which has two effects.
It cuts drag, therefore boosting straight-line speed even more than it already would be just by opening the DRS flap.
But it also makes the car more balanced front to rear in high-speed corners in practice and qualifying, where DRS use is free, because the main problem with F1 cars in fast corners is they have too much front downforce.
They'll have a restrictor in there that they can change from track to track depending on need. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17421227 _________________ He who calls for full employment calls for war! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
pigeon768 l33t

Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 675
|
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: | When the DRS overtaking aid opens on the rear wing, it reveals a hole in the endplates. | Ahh, that makes sense. I love it. Controversy my ass, this is what the teams are supposed to be doing.
That was a revealing weekend. It looks like Red Bull's blown diffuser setup was a keystone in their setup. Removing it toppled the performance of the entire system.
Also a great race in the midfield. Too bad about all the retirements, but that's to be expected in Australia. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 686 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
|
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
pigeon768 wrote: | Ahh, that makes sense. I love it. Controversy my ass, this is what the teams are supposed to be doing. |
++ _________________ People Of Love
Kindness Evokes Kindness
Peace Emits Positive Energy |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
Schumi qualifies 3rd in Sepang. Nice. Hopefully they addressed the tires degradation issue without compromising speed. Should be a nice race. Seems like Mercedes finally got him a almost-great car. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Fran Guru


Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Posts: 530 Location: Coruña (Spain)
|
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
Now this is a proper race  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
asturm Developer


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 6141 Location: Austria
|
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, that was fun  _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: | Force India team members were forced to flee as petrol bombs were hurled over their vehicle on their way back from the Bahrain Grand Prix track.
The four mechanics in a 4x4 were caught in the middle of an incident as police clashed with protestors.
Some tear gas fired by police entered the car, before the driver escaped through a gap in the flames on the road.
No Force India staff were hurt but two team members have asked to return home. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17767985 _________________ He who calls for full employment calls for war! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
petrjanda Veteran


Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
|
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
Think Bernie fucked this one up. _________________ There is, a not-born, a not-become, a not-made, a not-compounded. If that unborn, not-become, not-made, not-compounded were not, there would be no escape from this here that is born, become, made and compounded. - Gautama Siddharta |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|