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DaggyStyle Watchman
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: dev-java/icedtea vs jdk |
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Hello All,
with the new Oracle decision which prompt reinstating the fetch flag, I'm back on thinking about reusing dev-java/icedtea, I've tried that before a long time ago and found out that it was missing features especially in the 3d section.
can anyone share what is the current status of the support? _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Gabriel_Blake Guru
Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 362
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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well... I'm using icedtea, because Minecraft didn't work on jdk so much for 3D
all other apps work great on icedtea |
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DaggyStyle Watchman
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Gabriel_Blake wrote: | well... I'm using icedtea, because Minecraft didn't work on jdk so much for 3D
all other apps work great on icedtea |
ha! funny _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Kollin Veteran
Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 1139 Location: Sofia/Bulgaria
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: Re: dev-java/icedtea vs jdk |
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DaggyStyle wrote: | Hello All,
with the new Oracle decision which prompt reinstating the fetch flag, I'm back on thinking about reusing dev-java/icedtea, I've tried that before a long time ago and found out that it was missing features especially in the 3d section.
can anyone share what is the current status of the support? |
Yesterday i got rid of sun-java by the same reasons, everything is ok so far. Here is what i did:
1. emerge dev-java/icedtea-web dev-java/icedtea6-bin
2.eselect java-vm, eselect java-nsplugin
3.emerge -C dev-java/sun-jdk
4.and just in case emerge -1 virtual/jdk, revdep-rebuild _________________ "Dear Enemy: may the Lord hate you and all your kind, may you be turned orange in hue, and may your head fall off at an awkward moment."
"Linux is like a wigwam - no windows, no gates, apache inside..." |
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Yamakuzure Advocate
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2284 Location: Adendorf, Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Just tried it. IcedTea won't build with Kernel 3+. icedtea-7.1.14 wrote: | *** This OS is not supported: Linux sed-notebook 3.0.4-gentoo | ...*aaaw*... _________________ Important German:- "Aha" - German reaction to pretend that you are really interested while giving no f*ck.
- "Tja" - German reaction to the apocalypse, nuclear war, an alien invasion or no bread in the house.
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muni n00b
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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It built for me with vanilla 3.0.3 kernel:
Code: | [I] dev-java/icedtea
Available versions: (6) (~)6.1.10.2!t (~)6.1.10.3!t
{cacao debug doc elibc_FreeBSD examples +hs20 jamvm javascript nio2 +nsplugin +nss pulseaudio systemtap +webstart +xrender zero}
Installed versions: 6.1.10.3(6)!t(00:50:35 10.09.2011)(doc hs20 nsplugin nss webstart xrender -cacao -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio -systemtap -zero) |
This bug may be helpful if you are trying to build icedtea7. |
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DaggyStyle Watchman
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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muni wrote: | It built for me with vanilla 3.0.3 kernel:
Code: | [I] dev-java/icedtea
Available versions: (6) (~)6.1.10.2!t (~)6.1.10.3!t
{cacao debug doc elibc_FreeBSD examples +hs20 jamvm javascript nio2 +nsplugin +nss pulseaudio systemtap +webstart +xrender zero}
Installed versions: 6.1.10.3(6)!t(00:50:35 10.09.2011)(doc hs20 nsplugin nss webstart xrender -cacao -debug -elibc_FreeBSD -examples -jamvm -javascript -nio2 -pulseaudio -systemtap -zero) |
This bug may be helpful if you are trying to build icedtea7. |
notice his version of icedtea... _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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muni n00b
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, OK. Never mind it then, sorry! |
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charles17 Advocate
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 3664
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: Icedtea / OpenJDK |
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Well, from the only Java applet I'm usually using Icedtea7 gives me Code: | charles17@gentoobox ~ $ firefox
java version "1.7.0_136-icedtea"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 1.14) (Gentoo build 1.7.0_136-icedtea-b136)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b07, mixed mode)
AWT blocker activation interrupted:
java.lang.InterruptedException
at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:504)
at sun.awt.AWTAutoShutdown.activateBlockerThread(AWTAutoShutdown.java:337)
at sun.awt.AWTAutoShutdown.notifyPeerMapUpdated(AWTAutoShutdown.java:215)
at sun.awt.AWTAutoShutdown.registerPeer(AWTAutoShutdown.java:348)
at sun.awt.SunToolkit.targetCreatedPeer(SunToolkit.java:375)
at sun.awt.X11.XToolkit.createEmbeddedFrame(XToolkit.java:1112)
at sun.awt.X11.XEmbeddedFrame.addNotify(XEmbeddedFrame.java:67)
at sun.awt.X11.XEmbeddedFrame.<init>(XEmbeddedFrame.java:56)
at sun.awt.X11.XEmbeddedFrame.<init>(XEmbeddedFrame.java:73)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.<init>(PluginAppletViewer.java:345)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.framePanel(PluginAppletViewer.java:323)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletPanelFactory.createPanel(PluginAppletViewer.java:140)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.parse(PluginAppletViewer.java:1886)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer$6.run(PluginAppletViewer.java:1810)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer$6.run(PluginAppletViewer.java:1808)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.parse(PluginAppletViewer.java:1808)
at sun.applet.PluginAppletViewer.handleMessage(PluginAppletViewer.java:475)
at sun.applet.PluginStreamHandler.handleMessage(PluginStreamHandler.java:232)
at sun.applet.PluginMessageHandlerWorker.run(PluginMessageHandlerWorker.java:78)
JAR https://www.elsteronline.de/eportal/applet/ElsterAppletAnalyze.jar not found. Continuing.
JAR https://www.elsteronline.de/eportal/applet/webappletshared.jar not found. Continuing.
net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Initialization Error: Could not initialize applet.
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:728)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:672)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:884)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: de.elster.portal.appletgui.analyze.ElsterAppletAnalyze
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.loadClass(JNLPClassLoader.java:1084)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:712)
... 2 more
Caused by:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: de.elster.portal.appletgui.analyze.ElsterAppletAnalyze
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.loadClass(JNLPClassLoader.java:1084)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.createApplet(Launcher.java:712)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher.getApplet(Launcher.java:672)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.Launcher$TgThread.run(Launcher.java:884)
java.lang.NullPointerException
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:109)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:379)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.run(NetxPanel.java:69)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
java.lang.NullPointerException
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:429)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.run(NetxPanel.java:69)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:722)
Error: Unable to fetch applet instance id from Java side. | And, Icedtea6 doesn't do it any better. |
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Shining Arcanine Veteran
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 1110
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:42 am Post subject: Re: dev-java/icedtea vs jdk |
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DaggyStyle wrote: | Hello All,
with the new Oracle decision which prompt reinstating the fetch flag, I'm back on thinking about reusing dev-java/icedtea, I've tried that before a long time ago and found out that it was missing features especially in the 3d section.
can anyone share what is the current status of the support? |
The following two bugs need to be fixed to patch a security bug that is several years old:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143019
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170305
If you are okay with using software that has known security vulnerabilities, feel free to install jogl from the java-overlay overlay. |
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DaggyStyle Watchman
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5909
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:56 am Post subject: Re: dev-java/icedtea vs jdk |
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Shining Arcanine wrote: | DaggyStyle wrote: | Hello All,
with the new Oracle decision which prompt reinstating the fetch flag, I'm back on thinking about reusing dev-java/icedtea, I've tried that before a long time ago and found out that it was missing features especially in the 3d section.
can anyone share what is the current status of the support? |
The following two bugs need to be fixed to patch a security bug that is several years old:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143019
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170305
If you are okay with using software that has known security vulnerabilities, feel free to install jogl from the java-overlay overlay. |
can you elaborate more about the security vulnerabilities in portage's icedtea? _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Shining Arcanine Veteran
Joined: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 1110
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: dev-java/icedtea vs jdk |
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DaggyStyle wrote: | Shining Arcanine wrote: | DaggyStyle wrote: | Hello All,
with the new Oracle decision which prompt reinstating the fetch flag, I'm back on thinking about reusing dev-java/icedtea, I've tried that before a long time ago and found out that it was missing features especially in the 3d section.
can anyone share what is the current status of the support? |
The following two bugs need to be fixed to patch a security bug that is several years old:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143019
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170305
If you are okay with using software that has known security vulnerabilities, feel free to install jogl from the java-overlay overlay. |
can you elaborate more about the security vulnerabilities in portage's icedtea? |
I was talking about a security vulnerability in JOGL, which is what gives Java programs access to OpenGL. I never said anything about any security vulnerabilities in IcedTea itself. |
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Massimo B. Veteran
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 1771 Location: PB, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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As of today which one is preferred on a recent amd64 when it comes to speed? Most projects work with both, most project maintainers recommend using the SUN JRE.
On PPC I was comparing once icedtea to IBM JRE, there icedtea was even faster when using the Shark JIT, but those useflags disappeared. Today icedtea reports: Code: | OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode) | What kind of JIT is that today? _________________ HP ZBook Power 15.6" G8 i7-11800H|HP EliteDesk 800G1 i7-4790|HP Compaq Pro 6300 i7-3770 |
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DaggyStyle Watchman
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: |
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I'm using currently openjdk on 64 bit, haven't found any issues till now. _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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Ant P. Watchman
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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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From the use flag descriptions it sounds like icedtea uses HotSpot by default on amd64 unless you enable a different one. |
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