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augustin_meaulnes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Gnome cannot run when switched to French language Reply with quote

Hi,
I am at my first install of Gentoo.
I have X running and gdm but when I log as regular user I get the gnome screen (blue background with a one eyed face) but nothing else. I mean no menu and no panel and it seems that the CPU is working at full charge.
On the contrary, if I log as root gnome works perfectly.
I need help.
Thank you.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since my first attempt I did the following.
I logged as root
made a new user
switched to this user -> everything was OK
logged out
asked for a change in the language English -> French
tried to log in again
was asked if I wanted to have French for ever Answered "yes"
I had the problem anew!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and use "top" to see what's using the CPU?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Thank you for helping me.
Here is the result of some tests

    Whenever I log as a user for who I changed the session language to French
    ctl-alt-F2 and log as root
    top gives:
    Quote:
    udisks-daemon 23%
    dbus-daemon 18%
    dbus-daemon 5%
    gnome-session 2.3%
    among follower (around 0.8%) gnome-panel, polkitd,gvfsdgnome-power-man

    and the graphical session is blocked on the screen background image (no menu and no panel)


    Whenever I log as a user for who I didn't change the language
    top gives everything around 0.0% and the graphical gnome session works
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's an issue because of misconfigured local

you can :
1/ killall udiskdaemon
just to enter your session (you'll get the panel... coming after that)

2/ USE="-gdu" emerge -1 gvfs
remove usage of the automounter that bug with your local settings

3/ use utf for your local and check that one really exist
(i'm not in front of the computer that was having that issue, if you need more help i will check it on how i solve it)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Thank you for helping me.

When I was in front of the gdm screen I did the following:

Quote:
1- switched to a new virtual console and logged as "root"
2- did killall udisks-daemon answers was: "no such process found"
3- did USE="-gdu" emerge -1 gvfs
4-reboot


Now it works.
I didn't looked at and change the locale because I don't know how to do it.

Could you tell me what is the gvfs package and what exactly happend with this emerge ?
Maybe could you also point me to some reading about this.

Last and final, I can log in with the gdm but I still have to use US keybord layout. How to get a French layout?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah bad me i don't remember but the offending name could be udisk-deamon-monitor or something like that, try look at the pid and kill pid instead
you should also see a dead dbus-something running around.


for the locale : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/utf-8.xml

gvfs is the gnome virtual filesystem, and the gdu use flag enable automounting of fs
so, you've lost automount feature by disabling gdu.
you could re-enable it as soon as you avoid the bug by setting your locale

For the gdm in azerty look here
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6437086-highlight-console.html#6437086
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krinn wrote:
yeah bad me i don't remember but the offending name could be udisk-deamon-monitor or something like that, try look at the pid and kill pid instead

the name given by top is udisks-daemon (the one I used)


Quote:
for the locale : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/utf-8.xml

I will see that

Quote:
gvfs is the gnome virtual filesystem, and the gdu use flag enable automounting of fs
so, you've lost automount feature by disabling gdu.

I never figured out that Gnome was using this sort of abstraction layer.

Quote:
you could re-enable it as soon as you avoid the bug by setting your locale

Yes, but how?


Quote:
For the gdm in azerty look here
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6437086-highlight-console.html#6437086

I"ll look at this.

Many thanks again.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the thread I gave up.
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and if you have xorg 1.6/7 look in the doc: ttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.6-upgrade-guide.xml
I cannot find how to check the version of a package.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are numerous ways, but here's one to do it with the command emerge:

Code:
emerge --info xorg-server

That show a bunch of other info as well.
You could also do

Code:
emerge --pretend xorg-server

as well or even add --verbose for more info.
The version of X server would be stated in the log file as well.
For future record, a lot if not most of the commands have a manual you can access like so:

Code:
man emerge

In case you didn't know. :]
I hope this helps!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thanks. I used emerge --info <package> once but as it displayed a lot of info not directly related to the package, I didn't see that the info about the package was placed at the very bottom.
In fact my version is:
Quote:
x11base/xorg-server-1.7.7-r1

Now to go on my problem:
I did what is on the page
Quote:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6437086-highlight-console.html#6437086
krinn directed me to, I mean:
in make.conf add/change
Code:
USE="udev -hal"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev"
VIDEO_CARDS="radeon"

then rebuilt the server with that
Code:
emerge -uDN1 xorg-server
emerge -1 portage-utils && emerge -1 $(qlist -IC x11-drivers/)


Code:
mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

and put that file in here as 97-evdev.conf, so it's pathname is: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/97-evdev.conf

Code:

Section "InputClass"
   Identifier "mouse-all"
        MatchIsPointer "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "AutoServerLayout" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "keyboard-all"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
        Driver "evdev"
        Option "XkbLayout" "fr"
        Option "XkbRules"  "xorg"
        Option "XkbModel"  "pc105"
        Option "AutoServerLayout" "on"
EndSection

the locale cmd tells:
Quote:
Lang=fr_FR.UTF-8
LC_TTYPE="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_FR.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=


Writing this I discover that the first line has no "" . Could it be the origin of my problem?
The actual situation is:
gdm in French text but with QWERTY keeboard instead of AZERTY
gnome session in French with French keeboard.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the 1.7.7-r1 version is the most recent _stable_ version in Portage for the time being, and I've read that it still needs hal (the last version at that), so I'm not so sure about the -hal flag... but I'm really not experienced enough to say for sure, just thinking out loud here. ^^


And yeps, I agree. That Lang=fr_FR.UTF-8 should indeed be LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" at least if we go with what we can see here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" I had a look at /etc/env.d/02locale and the "" are present so I don't understand why local gives it with no "".
About hal, krinn's opinion would be welcome.
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