Pappy's Kernel Seeds Part III<Closed. Please use new thread>

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:29 am Post subject:

Yes, the general issue is/was compilation failure. This is a fairly pandemic situation as kernel versions and nvidia-drivers (and some other stuff) tend to miss each other on the update trail at times.

If you can get the drivers to compile, the rest is generally in the bag. The only really "out there" thing is the latest few versions of nvidia-drivers for core-too (195.36.xx--ish) make the screen blank a few moments after logging in. I haven't checked this action, and don't know when it came in as the machine in question only shuts down and reboots on very rare occasions, such as kernel revision. I ignore it, no matter how disconcerting it is initially.

I may play with it later, but I'm going to set up a .35 kernel on my file/print server presently. I am moving to having them on all my machines. So far, so good.

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

dufeu · l33t Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 924 Location: US-FL-EST

wisemanSSJ · n00b Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 37

Hi, Pappy. Thanks a lot for the things you do!
Recently I've decided to compile my own gentoo-kernel. I configured it mannualy with the use of "make menuconfig". Of course, I'm newby at all this staff and these are simply my first steps. I don't pretend to tell that my kernel config is good, but I'm going from time to time to recompile it, updating the config of kernel.

So, to the topic: now I have some troubles! I suppose, the thing is in Udev or something like that. While starting Linux I see the announcements of mounting different things. The last entry I see is this thing: "Waiting for uevents to be processed". And then - the screen becomes absolutely black. As if it's turned off. The system doesn't pause for 60 seconds, but it absolutely freezes. I'm absolutely sure in this cause I left system in that state for 20 minutes and nothing changed. I tested it with generic kernel - everything booted fine. What in my kernel may result in such trouble?
Hope you'll help me, cause I really don't know where at least to look.

Btw, I've created the topic with my problem earlier and, after some simple tests (we made sure that the thing is in kernel), I was adviced to ask you.
So, here is my .config: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/247746/

Here is my lspci (I believe, it's necessary) :

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject:

wisemanSSJ,

You have a lot of options in your kernel that you don't need but other than that, it looks ok.

You are using libata for your hard drives, which is good, the depreciated sysfs things, which stop udev in its tracks, are off. Thats good too.
How do you want to proceed, have help with fixing your kernel or start with one of Pappys seeds ?
_________________
Regards,

NeddySeagoon

Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.

wisemanSSJ · n00b Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 37

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject:

wisemanSSJ,

Go through your kernel, looking for whole menus you can turn off.

wisemanSSJ · n00b Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 37

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject:

wisemanSSJ,

If you choose to use one of Pappys seeds, post problems here. If you want to clean up your own kernel, start a new thread. in Kernel and Hardware.
This is really Pappys support thread.
_________________
Regards,

NeddySeagoon

Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:22 am Post subject:

An when you do, post the results of lspci -n and cat /proc/cpuinfo as well as your /etc/fstab. I'll collect the .config from here, and will send you the result in the new thread. Don't forget to post that thread here.

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

wisemanSSJ · n00b Joined: 29 Jul 2010 Posts: 37

Yup, have created a new thread with necessary information about my system. Here it is : https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6381277.html#6381277

Thanks in advance for your and NeddySeagoon's help.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:38 am Post subject:

It's another kernel source bonanza! In an unexpected move, kernel.org pumped out some source today. The requisite gentoo-sources came on line as well. So, I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.27.50, 2.6.32.18, 2.6.33-gentoo-r3, 2.6.34.3, 2.6.34-gentoo-r4, 2.6.35.1, and 2.6.35-gentoo-r1 in x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

It's also coming up on my birthday, and anyone who gets the inspiration to shoot me a little happy birthday donation will gain lots of appreciation, and of course, a place on the Above And Beyond Page.

END SHAMELESS PLUG MODE

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

iamben · Apprentice Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 275

good news, the latest gentoo patchset has a patch to make xconfig use qt4

stuNNed2 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:43 pm Post subject: hitchhiker-sources

anyone ever try hitchhiker-sources? the developer isn't working on the project anymore and the latest kernel is -32-r1. the patchset is interesting, includes tuxonice, gentoo patchset, compile kernel with -march=native, reiser4 support, and other goodies.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:32 am Post subject:

Another day, another batch of code from kernel.org, another few new .configs. I've just uploaded fresh .configs for 2.6.27.51, 2.6.32.19, 2.6.34.4, and 2.6.35.2 in x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

d2_racing · Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject:

Pappy, on what FS are you running right now ?

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:13 am Post subject:

I'm running reiserfs-3 on all machines, as well as an ext3 partition on my file server which holds extra large files.

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:03 am Post subject:

Two new gentoo-sources kernels showed up in my daily sync. I've uploaded .configs for 2.6.34-gentoo-r5 and 2.6.35-gentoo-r2 in x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

1clue · Advocate Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2569

Any known issues with an i7 920 with nvidia and 2.6.34? And I think I'm going to try kvm with this one. Specs in the sig.

Trying to start over on the kernel, I haven't had a really comfy kernel for months.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:56 am Post subject:

None that I've seen. Don't forget to set for both multiple CPU's and hyperthreading...or you might not see all your processors.

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

1clue · Advocate Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2569

<rant type="extra-whiny">

I hate the part about having to do my own features. It seems there should be a way to query the hardware and have all that set correctly for you automatically. It takes me hours to get through a kernel config, it should take a few seconds to get most of it.

It just goes to figure right? The hardware is a known quantity and software regularly queries it. The sites referenced to read your lspci and lsusb should be able to do that automatically, and turn on kernel options right? And your seeds give the stuff not directly related to hardware.

So there should be a way to get your base "seed" of what works for you, then apply hardware settings from an automatic query, and then tweak. I think you should be able to ignore step 3 in that process and have a reasonably good chance of having a pretty darn good kernel.

</rant>

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:00 am Post subject:

It's a tuxonice party!!! Yeppers, three new tuxonice-sources packages means...

I just uploaded the .configs for 2.6.32-tuxonice-r13, 2.6.33-tuxonice-r4, and 2.6.34-tuxonice-r2 in x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

pappy_mcfae · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:11 am Post subject:

1clue,

That sounds WAY too much like having Windoze scan a huge database to come up with all the needed drivers. I'm sure there would be someone in the Linux community to create such a thing, but I don't know that it's going to be happening...at least here in Gentoo land, any time in the foreseeable future. For all I know, such a thing might even exist even now. I'm so used to doing it the way I do it, I would have no need for such a thing anyway.

Setting up a seed not really that hard to do. Once you have the seed, the rest is really easy. I can get a .config set up in ten minutes or so, depending on how obscure or old the hardware is. I've spent a half hour or more on certain .configs because of ambiguous hardware, but that is a very rare situation.

Besides, it's good to know your machinery intimately. I know all my machines like the back of my hand.

Cheers,
Pappy
_________________
This space left intentionally blank, except for these ASCII symbols.

1clue · Advocate Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2569

Not at all like Windows. That would be the genkernel IMO. Everything on. I'm talking about checking processor type and features, motherboard config and setting all that up. Then make sure only the drivers that make sense for you are in there. Assume you want all stable features that make sense for your hardware, and nothing else.

For that matter, your kernel-seeds instructions have you manually use a database to get exactly the sort of information I'm talking about. Why not automate that and then let the admin adjust for what he/she wants to adjust?

For that matter, I would consider doing this project myself except I'm not really a kernel wizard and don't have the databases.