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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: subtle - a manual tiling window manager Reply with quote

Hello,

I would like to introduce you to subtle:

subtle is a manual tiling window manager with a rather uncommon approach of tiling: Instead of relying on predefined layouts, subtle divides the screen into a grid with customizeable slots (called gravities). For better understanding, the default config uses a 3x3 grid and maps each gravity to one key of the numpad. With those keys, windows can be moved directly to the desired gravity - the same can be done with tagging rules in the config.

Another unique concept is the strict tagging: Unlike other tiling window managers, subtle doesn't allow weak tagging and always maps windows to virtual desktops (called views) with matching tags, regardless of the current active view.

Features
- Builtin system tray
- Extendable builtin panel
- Customizeable key/mouse actions
- Focus on scripting (Ruby)
- Commandline client
- Extended window tagging
- Compliance (EWMH / ICCCM / MWM / XDG Base Directory)
- Multihead support (Xinerama / XRandR)

Screenshots

http://subforge.org/images/screenshots/subtle-0.8-5.png
http://subforge.org/images/screenshots/subtle-0.9-1.png
http://subforge.org/images/screenshots/subtle-0.10-1.png

Install

There is an official overlay with ebuilds for stable and devel available via layman, just select it with:
Code:
layman -a subforge


Or if you prefer installing it by yourself:

http://hg.subforge.org/subtle/archive/tip.tar.bz2
http://hg.subforge.org/sur/archive/tip.tar.bz2

http://subforge.org/projects/subtle/wiki/Install#Gentoo

Contact

If you have problems, suggestions or just want to talk about subtle feel free to join #subtle on irc.freenode.org, ask here or in the forum on the project page.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame their haven't been more replies to this thread. I'll certainly check it out when I find the time for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh yep, a bit disappointing, but refused to push it myself. Thanks for trying, if you have any questions just ask either here, on subforge or on freenode in the channel. :)


zixnub wrote:
Shame their haven't been more replies to this thread. I'll certainly check it out when I find the time for it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He! I had totally forgotten I was 'watching this topic', thanks for the reminder!

I will definitely give it a try too!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are welcome, I am curious about any comments/questions/suggestions about subtle.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For people that are still interested in subtle, the overlay and maintainer have changed.

Please use this git overlay in future: https://github.com/shurizzle/shura-overlay/tree/subtle
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I released another stable version of subtle (0.9.2573-lambda) which is also available via layman now. (subtle-overlay) [Thanks to damex]
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unexist wrote:
I released another stable version of subtle (0.9.2573-lambda) which is also available via layman now. (subtle-overlay) [Thanks to damex]


I would love to give it a try, but I'm no ruby man.
This what I get, (after unmasking ruby):
Code:
# emerge -pv ruby

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ">=dev-ruby/rdoc-2.5.11[ruby_targets_ruby19]".
(dependency required by "dev-lang/ruby-1.9.2" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "ruby" [argument])


and
Code:
# emerge -pv subtle

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-ruby/curb[ruby_targets_ruby19]".
(dependency required by "x11-wm/subtle-9999" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "subtle" [argument])

Any hints?
Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trippels wrote:
I would love to give it a try, but I'm no ruby man.
Any hints?
Thanks


Actually I am not a gentoo user anymore, but I will ask the overlay maintainer asap and either ask him to post here or will post it myself. Are you using the subtle-overlay?

Edit: Ok, I updated my gentoo buildhost and I stumpled upon the same problems. In order to solve it I had to uninstall rubygems and unmask rdoc.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you are using the devel version of subtle, I commited changes that change the way colors are configured in subtle. Please make sure to read following news: http://subforge.org/news/38
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like this thread draws almost no attention, what about more screenshots?

subtle-0.10.3037
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subtle looks like interesting but I have the same problem as trippel :


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emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-ruby/curb[ruby_targets_ruby19]".


I use the subtle-overlay.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erdnaxeli wrote:
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emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-ruby/curb[ruby_targets_ruby19]".


Looks like the ebuild is outdated, I am not a gentoo user myself. The curb dependency is obsolete, I removed it some versions ago. I will try to contact the maintainer of the package in overlay, but must admit I have no idea how the overlay stuff with layman works.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFYI: Created a new official overlay today and filed a ticket in the tracker. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382079

My overlay has been accepted and can be added with layman now.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, but I have a new issu : « emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-ruby/rake[ruby_targets_ruby19]" »
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erdnaxeli wrote:
Thanks, but I have a new issu : « emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-ruby/rake[ruby_targets_ruby19]" »


Did you select ruby19? Something like:
Code:
eselect ruby ruby19

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: I think i found my perfect WM now if only i could emerge it. Reply with quote

might start going the build yourself route .. ruby19 seems to be defunct at this point .. ? and i cant emerge subtle without being ruby19 ..
i have unmasked and put in package.use and am running a current sync ....i LOVE me some terminal and subtle looks to be the perfect WM :) yes flattery --- but without ruby19 i am stuck and no amount of messing around has made ruby19 available.
a few forum posts about ruby19 say that its pulled ??
HELP please!

i can post any info that may help
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:03 am    Post subject: farther on emerge Reply with quote

removed hard mask in /usr/portage/package.mask :) i know it will come back next sync but hey it worked
and added
echo "dev-ruby/archive-tar-minitar ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
echo "dev-ruby/rubygems ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
echo "dev-ruby/rdoc ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords


and its emerging as i type !! only minutes from nirvanna
Posting because i hope it helps someone else try this out
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry was too early for me, probably timezone problem.

Ruby19 is a mess in gentoo, I blogged about this once: http://subforge.org/blogs/show/3
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Well its installed !! w00t! Reply with quote

Now i have issues with fonts not being available..
edit /etc/xdg/subtle/subtle.rb to set a font you have (if you dont have or use fontsel)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea why gentoo lacks basis fonts tho.

Looks like two subtle packages are officially in portage now.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280043
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:06 pm    Post subject: All up and running and loving it!!! Reply with quote

my build didnt have the fonts available - xft worked fine tho
un-hard mask ruby19
eselect ruby19
unmask the couple extra packages it needs
and w00t!! :)

now is it overkill to use terminator shell on a tiling window manager :)

so far changed the xterm and some colors, getting the hang of the shortcuts -- just figured out how to shutdown last night

theme-ing and changing some bindings and i will be well on my way to replacing my standard wm (xfce4) -- gave awesome some testing then saw subtle on the gentoo main page .. funny how you sometimes find the tool you are looking for in the most obvious place.

Keep it up unexist!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: All up and running and loving it!!! Reply with quote

Quake_Sinatra wrote:
.. funny how you sometimes find the tool you are looking for in the most obvious place.

Keep it up unexist!!


Heh, took me quite a while to reach uses here in the forum and I will. :D
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subtle is really great, but how to add it to the kdm, gdm or any login manager menu? Is the only way using .xinitrc file only?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keenblade wrote:
Subtle is really great, but how to add it to the kdm, gdm or any login manager menu? Is the only way using .xinitrc file only?


The latest versions of subtle include the required .desktop file in the data directory, you need to copy it to the .desktop file directory of your login manager (usually /usr/share/xsessions), otherwise it won't find subtle as WM.
(Pretty stupid system tho.)
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