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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, but my original suggestion was *NOT* for a forum; it was for a place to upload configs. UPLOAD *ONLY*!

Spam is only useful to the spammer if people can see it. Sysadms are not likely to respond to spam, soif the board is upload-only, then the users never get to see the spam, so what's thepoint of posting it?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Therein lies the reason I don't want to go there. If people want to upload porn, cool. I might add it to my collection. If they want to keep uploading reasons I should use Viagra, then I have no desire to be anywhere near them. It's not like I don't get enough of that in my email.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then, of course, you can use the old "email Pappy to get a password, which will be revoked if you misbehave..."

I have a salmon and steelhead fishing page that has a chat feature, and maybe fishermen are different, but I have had very little trouble with it, and its been running sinc 2002.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae wrote:
If they want to keep uploading reasons I should use Viagra, then I have no desire to be anywhere near them. It's not like I don't get enough of that in my email.


That and why you need to meet more (demographic here) singles. :roll:

Btw, when you get a chance, check out this thread. It may be useful info for the kind of intel chip I have. I ended up not needing to set ANY support for framebuffer in the kernel (this was the machine you recommended a .27 kernel for, which may still be good advice, but for those who want/need a later kernel for whatever reason...)

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6026609.html#6026609
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There might come a time when I move to using an online form. It would, at very least, save the the trouble of following behind folks reminding them to send file x, y, or z.

I will go there eventually, but for now, I think I've got enough on my project plate to last a few weeks, if not months.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audidef, send that .config so I can take a look, if you please.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae wrote:
Audidef, send that .config so I can take a look, if you please.


Sure thing. 8)

Config: http://audiodef.com/config31with-intel

lspci -n:
Code:

00:00.0 0600: 8086:2560 (rev 01)
00:02.0 0300: 8086:2562 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 0c03: 8086:24c2 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 0c03: 8086:24c4 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 0c03: 8086:24c7 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 0c03: 8086:24cd (rev 01)
00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev 81)
00:1f.0 0601: 8086:24c0 (rev 01)
00:1f.1 0101: 8086:24cb (rev 01)
00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:24c3 (rev 01)
00:1f.5 0401: 8086:24c5 (rev 01)
01:05.0 0c00: 11c1:5811 (rev 61)
01:09.0 0200: 14e4:4401 (rev 01)


cat /proc/cpuinfo:
Code:

processor       : 0
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 15
model           : 2
model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
stepping        : 9
cpu MHz         : 2392.275
cache size      : 128 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 2
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe pebs bts cid xtpr
bogomips        : 4784.55
clflush size    : 64
power management:


According to the guidelines for using KMS, you have to make sure you have no support for framebuffer enabled, which is what I've done. Gotten it to work on my older intel desktop and on a newer intel laptop with tuxonice. In both cases, the kernel version is .31-r3 (gentoo and tuxonice respectively. The one with the above info is the older intel desktop).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll analyze it later. Need to keep up on things.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No prob!

Interestingly, this particular machine (my Intel i810 desktop) encounters a blank screen or disconnects from xorg when xdm starts no matter what drivers or kernel version I use, every now and then. I've decided at this point it's something to live with. :P
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...that's weird. It's also why I use startx. From the earliest times of playing with Linux, I've always preferred to have the machine start without going directly to X. It reminds me of the not-so-good old days when DOS and Windoze 3.11 ruled the planet. It always blows peoples' minds when I fire up to Linux. You can almost see the question marks flying over their heads. hehehe

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another day, another .config. I've added .configs for 2.6.31-gentoo-r4 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might go back to doing it that way myself. 8)

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Yeah...that's weird. It's also why I use startx. From the earliest times of playing with Linux, I've always preferred to have the machine start without going directly to X. It reminds me of the not-so-good old days when DOS and Windoze 3.11 ruled the planet. It always blows peoples' minds when I fire up to Linux. You can almost see the question marks flying over their heads. hehehe

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always start my X servers the good old fashioned way:
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$ X :0 &
or use some other display number if appropriate.

I then start the window manager of my choice manually as well:
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$ DISPLAY=:0 ctwm &
I'm a true minimalist when it comes to my window manager. 8)

Of course, I have ctwm configured to run 26 virtual desktops, but I really do use them all, and wish I had more sometimes. :?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pappy: Regarding that quad-core AMD motherboard with the flakey ethernet problem...

I ran the livecd for 24 hours without a glitch, so now I am running the kernel you gave me the .config for with exactly the same network activity, and we shall see what happens.

I'm still not convinced that there isn't a configuration problem somewhere. :|
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eth2 Lock-Up :evil:

Pappy, eth2 on my quad-core AMD box just locked up while running the same exact load as the livecd ran for 24 hours. The .config you are helping me with ran 7:22:00 hours.

So I think there is a configuration problem. It might not be directly connected with the ethernet driver. Maybe its a race condition from the 4 cores, or some other bug.

I have an Intel quad-core that runs fine, and has for 1.5 years, but its ethernet hardware is different.

So what's our next step with this? Where do we go from here?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It locked up again at uptime 8:01:00, so it only ran about 40 minutes this time before it had a fit. :(

Should I check on maybe another thread -- one that specialized in general kernel stuff? Maybe there is an issue here that some others know about...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check kernel versions. If the version on the CD worked, find its version, and see if you can get it to fire. If it does, then there's a kernel version issue. That's not unheard of.

The .31 kernel doesn't like lm_sensors or the kernel modules that make it work. The CPU temp module works, but no others. The .30 version kernels work just fine with lm_sensors and its modules.

Trying another kernel version would be the next logical step.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that it's not your network card that is dying.

You should copy a lot of stuff between 2 Pcs and test if your lan card is crashing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I've pumped 1 TB thru the card under livecd, but the custom kernel will not last that long.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kernel version are you using right now ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

livecd is:
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Linux livecd 2.6.24-gentoo-r7 #1 SMP Thu Jul 3 18:36:20 UTC 2008 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

Custon kernel from Pappy's Seeds is:
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linux-2.6.29-gentoo-r5

I am running the livecd on it right now, so I can't do a uname -a on the custom pappy kernel. :?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you should try the kernel 2.6.30 from pappy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, either that or fall back to 2.6.24-r7, which is what the livecd is running. :?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

make zen stable kernel seeds :P (they are in portage - they count right :lol: )
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all.

I think I need kernel specialists to check this: I've installed OpenVZ from a recent Gentoo LiveCD and didn't pay attention: I formatted filesystems with ext4 but OpenVZ kernel (2.6.27) has only ext4dev support! Does anybody know if ext4 has been backported to 2.6.27, especially for OpenVZ?
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