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CaptainCaveman
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 4:33 pm    Post subject: Removing the KDE "fluff" Reply with quote

I noticed that after doing an emerge kde, there's an awful lot of fluff with it. (The "edutainment" stuff, the "Toys" (potato guy, etc), and so on.)

How do I remove these programs if I don't want them? For example, with Mandrake, I would use kpackage to remove the "Kdetoys" package and so on, but under Gentoo that won't work, of course...

Can I just delete the binary files, or will that leave remnants and such elsewhere on my hard drive from them (kind of like how you can't just delete the executable in Windows.)

What's the "proper" way to uninstall them?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Captain caveman,

the proper way is :

emerge unmerge kdetoys

If i want only remove one program in an package (esp. KAsteroids in kdegames) i do :

unpack /usr/portage/distfiles/kdegames-3.0.tar.bz2 to /usr/src
cd /usr/src/kdegames
./configure
cd kasteroids
make uninstall


Hope this will help.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe only qt, arts, kdebase, and kdelibs are actually required for a running kde system so everything else you should be able to get rid of if you dont use it
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, unpacking worked. (actually I had to bunzip, then tar -xf, but it worked.)

However, and maybe I'm stupid, but I can't get "emerge unmerge [package]" to work.

I just figured out that I need to do emerge unmerge /var/db/pkg/[package].

Is this normal?
Code:
root@Ivan src # emerge -s kdeedu
[ Results for search key : kdeedu ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  kde-base/kdeedu
      Latest version Available: 3.0
      Latest version Installed: 3.0
      Description:
      ${DESCRIPTION}Educational

root@Ivan src # emerge unmerge kde-base/kdeedu
Couldn't find any matching installed packages.
root@Ivan src # emerge unmerge kdeedu
Couldn't find any matching installed packages.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's not normal.

I did a "emerge unmerge kdeedu" and it found the correct version and was ready to unmerge it.

FYI, you can untar a bzipped tar package in one swell foop:

tar -jxvf <package.tar.bz2>

The "-j" option works just like "-z" does for gzipped files.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you might have to update portage to get emerge unmerge to work. It didnt woek for me for a while and then i updated portage and it worked
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updating portage did it. 'emerge -s portage' revealed a newer version available.

I'd have never thought to try that.

Of course, now I get an "* IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /etc need updating." error, and the help isn't exactly clear on how I just fix these two files, rather than letting it overwrite everything -- unless that's the only way to do it.

Hrm.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 2:47 am    Post subject: try this Reply with quote

to update your etc files (that need updating)

emerge gentoolkit

then do
etc-update

and follow the instructions

very straight forward
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, now that I've gone through the etc-update, I actually understand what that meant. (I had updated some config files on my own.)

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 11:33 pm    Post subject: here it is the easy way to remove the fluff on kde Reply with quote

cd /usr/portage
cd kde-base
ls
you'll see all the packages that are under the KDE-Base ebuild
from there you can pick and choose what you want.

to get only the basic kde working minus the "fluff"

do:
emerge --pretend kde-base/kdebase

and you will be happily surprised

emerge kde-base/kdebase
will install ONLY the minimum requirements for KDE to work

hope that helped

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