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szczerb Veteran
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rahulthewall Veteran
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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You beat me to it, you did. Muaaaaa ...
So someone else loves to hang around phoronix. _________________ Who shall guard the guards? |
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audiodef Watchman
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szczerb Veteran
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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rahulthewall wrote: | You beat me to it, you did. Muaaaaa ...
So someone else loves to hang around phoronix. | I don't really hang around...it's not OTW But I do drop in fairly often ;] |
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szczerb Veteran
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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The new server is in x11
Now just waiting for the intel driver ;] |
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tranquilcool Veteran
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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szczerb wrote: | The new server is in x11
Now just waiting for the intel driver ;] |
x11 where? git i guess. not in portage. _________________ this is a strange strange world. |
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gringo Advocate
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: |
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szczerb is referring to the x11 overlay, if that´s what you are asking for.
cheers _________________ Error: Failing not supported by current locale |
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BlackEdder Advocate
Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2588 Location: Dutch enclave in Egham, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: |
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http://dberkholz.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/xorg-server-16-preview-in-x11-overlay/
Quote: | To compete with Remi’s post about getting xorg-server 1.5.3 stable in Gentoo, here’s one about getting xorg-server 1.6, which was released today, into testing in the main tree. We’ve been maintaining the 1.6 release candidates in the x11 overlay for a while now. Tonight I added the final release to the overlay. What’s left before it can move to the main tree? Here’s what I can think of, offhand:
The new XRandR stuff needs to get released upstream (randrproto, libXrandr, xrandr). Right now we’ve got the xrandr userland tool depending on live git of libXrandr, which won’t work for the main tree.
We need to sort out the issue with XCB’s Xlib library renaming forcing recompiles of practically everything. This is becoming more and more of a blocker because now libXext 7.0.5 requires a new libX11. I think giving ourselves a hard blocker on 1.6 from this will help us get it fixed. See bug #248743 to track progress on this.
The server now has a fix to keep looking for HAL if it’s not running when started. Should we change /etc/init.d/xdm to compensate for this change by no longer depending on hald, thus allowing gdm/kdm/etc to start earlier? This will give us one of the steps taken by the fastboot work seen lately in Moblin and elsewhere.
I think Remi’s going to add xf86-video-intel 2.6.2.
Our xinit is crazy stale, mainly because we patch it like crazy and I don’t like porting those. I’d like to get it updated to a current release for 1.6. In the longer term, we need to merge distro-neutral parts of our work upstream, but that’s not a 1.6 blocker.
To sum up, you can try xorg-server 1.6 now by adding the x11 overlay with layman, or you can wait for the above issues to get solved, and it will show up soon in testing in your main tree. |
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0000000000000 Apprentice
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Awesome, I hope this might improve the performance of my intel gma 4500 chip as it is doing pretty horribly right now |
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0000000000000 Apprentice
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Anyone else unable to emerge randrproto-1.2.99.4?
Getting 404's from all the servers on that one when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.6.0
edit: got randrproto from a different location and installed it, now emerge fails on inputproto-9999 saying xorg-macros.m4 is too old
Code: | > checking if xorg-macros used to generate configure is at least 1.2... configure: error: configure built with too old of a version of xorg-macros.m4 - requires version 1.1.0 or newer
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any ideas?
couldnt really find much on this elsewhere |
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DaggyStyle Watchman
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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0000000000000 wrote: | Anyone else unable to emerge randrproto-1.2.99.4?
Getting 404's from all the servers on that one when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.6.0
edit: got randrproto from a different location and installed it, now emerge fails on inputproto-9999 saying xorg-macros.m4 is too old
Code: | > checking if xorg-macros used to generate configure is at least 1.2... configure: error: configure built with too old of a version of xorg-macros.m4 - requires version 1.1.0 or newer
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any ideas?
couldnt really find much on this elsewhere |
how I see it, the logical solution is to emerge latest m4 version and then emerge latest util-macros version and then retry emerging inputproto _________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein |
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pdw_hu Apprentice
Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 200 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Does 2.6.2 work for anyone? My X just segfaults pointing to the intel driver, as foretold by the postinst message of the intel driver. |
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mrsaccess n00b
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I tried 2.6.2 on xorg-server 1.5.3-r2. Painful experience. I had to do an interactive boot in order to avoid xdm loading so I could get to a console and revert to the bad yet working at least in some ways 2.6.1.
Card X3100 (GM965 that is I think). _________________ Hardware: The parts of your pc you can kick. |
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audiodef Watchman
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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mrsaccess wrote: | I tried 2.6.2 on xorg-server 1.5.3-r2. Painful experience. I had to do an interactive boot in order to avoid xdm loading so I could get to a console and revert to the bad yet working at least in some ways 2.6.1.
Card X3100 (GM965 that is I think). |
You might want to work backwards with xorg-server and the intel driver until you come across a combination that works well for your system, then freeze it with package.*.
I did this once and had the right combo. Now I've lost it. _________________ decibel Linux: https://decibellinux.org
Github: https://github.com/Gentoo-Music-and-Audio-Technology
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decibellinux
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rmh3093 Advocate
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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audiodef wrote: | mrsaccess wrote: | I tried 2.6.2 on xorg-server 1.5.3-r2. Painful experience. I had to do an interactive boot in order to avoid xdm loading so I could get to a console and revert to the bad yet working at least in some ways 2.6.1.
Card X3100 (GM965 that is I think). |
You might want to work backwards with xorg-server and the intel driver until you come across a combination that works well for your system, then freeze it with package.*.
I did this once and had the right combo. Now I've lost it. |
going backwards never helps anything in the long run, make sure you have xorg 1.6, latest intel driver, and latest libdrm with matching kernel drm module, then go to #intel-gfx and talk to the devs to fix any regressions _________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. |
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audiodef Watchman
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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rmh3093 wrote: |
going backwards never helps anything in the long run, make sure you have xorg 1.6, latest intel driver, and latest libdrm with matching kernel drm module, then go to #intel-gfx and talk to the devs to fix any regressions |
I agree with this in theory, but in practice, machines are different and run best with different versions and configurations. I would like to run the latest everything, but the reality of machines is, like with humans, requirements are different for different machines. Also, I speak from experience. The latest xorg and intel drivers just don't always run the fastest or smoothest on certain machines, no matter how you tweak it.
Having said that, I'm all for developers being receptive to input and trying to make their software work for as many machines as possible.
What is comes down to is "whatever works is right". _________________ decibel Linux: https://decibellinux.org
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szczerb Veteran
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I just tried it and it's a bit better (Xv works) but still crap. Suspend hangs, hibernation hangs, compiz hangs, 3d games hang. I'm sticking with 1.5.3-r2 and 2.5.1-r1 until x11-7.5 |
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0000000000000 Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: |
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just installed xorg-server-1.6.0 and xf86-video-intel-9999 and along with anholt's drm-intel kernel, all is working really smooth now when previously compiz was an unusable lag
even motion blur works now
oh, this is on an intel gma 4500 chip with the i915 kernel module
=^_^= |
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rmh3093 Advocate
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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audiodef wrote: | rmh3093 wrote: |
going backwards never helps anything in the long run, make sure you have xorg 1.6, latest intel driver, and latest libdrm with matching kernel drm module, then go to #intel-gfx and talk to the devs to fix any regressions |
I agree with this in theory, but in practice, machines are different and run best with different versions and configurations. I would like to run the latest everything, but the reality of machines is, like with humans, requirements are different for different machines. Also, I speak from experience. The latest xorg and intel drivers just don't always run the fastest or smoothest on certain machines, no matter how you tweak it.
Having said that, I'm all for developers being receptive to input and trying to make their software work for as many machines as possible.
What is comes down to is "whatever works is right". |
im not saying use latest because its faster, im saying use latest because that is what is currently being worked on by the developers, if everyone used older versions then bugs and regressions like this would never be fixed because the people who discover them just go back to using what worked better in the past, the developers wouldnt release code it didnt pass tests on their own development boxes _________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. |
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szczerb Veteran
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: |
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0000000000000 wrote: | anholt's drm-intel kernel | Is this available in any overlay? |
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cruzki123 Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have a working KMS laptop with 2.6.29-rc6, xorg-server-1.6, xf86-video-intel-2.6.2, but I don't have a fbconsole. I mean, I can switch fast to a fbconsole, but I only get a distorsion in the screen. When I sitch back to VT7 I have my screen right. Does anyone knows about it? I suspect of my kernel configuration. |
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audiodef Watchman
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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rmh3093 wrote: |
im not saying use latest because its faster, im saying use latest because that is what is currently being worked on by the developers, if everyone used older versions then bugs and regressions like this would never be fixed because the people who discover them just go back to using what worked better in the past, the developers wouldnt release code it didnt pass tests on their own development boxes |
I just rebuilt one of my machines, and I'm going to side with you on this one. I'm using ~arch and I plan to try to get it working with the latest therefrom. _________________ decibel Linux: https://decibellinux.org
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pdw_hu Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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cruzki123 wrote: | I have a working KMS laptop with 2.6.29-rc6, xorg-server-1.6, xf86-video-intel-2.6.2, but I don't have a fbconsole. I mean, I can switch fast to a fbconsole, but I only get a distorsion in the screen. When I sitch back to VT7 I have my screen right. Does anyone knows about it? I suspect of my kernel configuration. |
Works fine for me. Same userspace, amd64.
One minor problem is that `xset dpms force off` doesn't work for some reason. Did anyone experience this? Solutions? |
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0000000000000 Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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szczerb wrote: | 0000000000000 wrote: | anholt's drm-intel kernel | Is this available in any overlay? |
Code: | git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel
cd drm-intel
make menuconfig
etc... |
I also added:
to Section "Module"
and
Code: | Option "DRI2" "true"
Option "AccelMethod" "UXA"
Option "Tiling" "no" | to Section "Device" |
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Code: | One minor problem is that `xset dpms force off` doesn't work for some reason. Did anyone experience this? Solutions? |
Got the same problem, allthough xorg.log says, it loaded dpms ok. xbacklight doesn't work, either. I've got this problem with my sony-laptop, according to some googleing, the problem is known and results from changes in the .29-rcX kernel, so should be fixed with the final .29 (I hope!). |
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