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yabbadabbadont Advocate
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 4791 Location: 2 exits past crazy
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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bi3l wrote: | I've updated the tarball:
- freetype to 2.3.7-r1 (latest ubuntu, archlinux and portage patches)
- cairo to 1.8.6 (latest ubuntu and archlinux patches)
- libXft to 2.1.13 (latest archlinux patches)
I've also added pixman 0.13.2 (shamelessly stolen from devnull ) |
Once again, thank you for your efforts. (even if I don't make use of them now ) |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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bi3l wrote: | I've updated the tarball:
- freetype to 2.3.7-r1 (latest ubuntu, archlinux and portage patches)
- cairo to 1.8.6 (latest ubuntu and archlinux patches)
- libXft to 2.1.13 (latest archlinux patches)
I've also added pixman 0.13.2 (shamelessly stolen from devnull :wink: ) |
No probem, I stole some stuff from you too :p |
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Phlogiston Veteran
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 1925 Location: Europe, Swizerland
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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What do you recommend now? Cleartype or those other patches? Or all of them? I'm still confused _________________ Workstation: 5.1 SurroundSound, LIRC remote control; Laptop [IBM-T43]: patched sources, s2disk/ram, fingerprint sensor |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Phlogiston wrote: | What do you recommend now? Cleartype or those other patches? Or all of them? I'm still confused 8) |
cleartype. newspr is dead in devnull (and gentoo-lcdfiltering)
I have updated the devnull overlay, we are now in sync with gentoo-lcd-filtering.tar.bz2.
bi3l: if you want access to the overlay for doing this font stuff pm me so we don't have to do double work (our ebuilds were nearly the same anyway)
devnull users: please rebuild cairo libXft and freetype, then revise your fontconfig settings and post here if you have any problems with the cleartype stuff.
edit: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/cleartype.png here is a screenshot so you can see what it looks like with this settings* - different but nice.
* different monitors render differently so it may be possible that you get other results. also you can't screenshot subpixel rendering. |
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Cyberstudio Apprentice
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 240 Location: /usr/src/linux
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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ocin wrote: | Phlogiston wrote: | What do you recommend now? Cleartype or those other patches? Or all of them? I'm still confused |
cleartype. newspr is dead in devnull (and gentoo-lcdfiltering)
I have updated the devnull overlay, we are now in sync with gentoo-lcd-filtering.tar.bz2.
bi3l: if you want access to the overlay for doing this font stuff pm me so we don't have to do double work (our ebuilds were nearly the same anyway)
devnull users: please rebuild cairo libXft and freetype, then revise your fontconfig settings and post here if you have any problems with the cleartype stuff.
edit: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/cleartype.png here is a screenshot so you can see what it looks like with this settings* - different but nice.
* different monitors render differently so it may be possible that you get other results. also you can't screenshot subpixel rendering. |
Im new to all of this stuff, just whant to know... if i unmask cairo and build it with cleartype and restart X, i will get pretty font rendering? or also i need to configure something? _________________ En los CDs de Microsoft, al reves escuchas un mensaje satanico. Eso no es lo peor, al derecho, te instala windows. |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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You need to add devnull overlay, and install fontconfig freetype libXft and cairo from there, after that make sure you have the fontconfig module for eselect (eselect-fontconfig) and then adjust your settings with it. My configuration looks like: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/eselect_fontconfig_list You can play around with it until you are statisfied (like trying different hinting styles, autohint y/n, subpixel etc.) |
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din_vl n00b
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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ocin wrote: | You need to add devnull overlay, and install fontconfig freetype libXft and cairo from there, after that make sure you have the fontconfig module for eselect (eselect-fontconfig) and then adjust your settings with it. My configuration looks like: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/eselect_fontconfig_list You can play around with it until you are statisfied (like trying different hinting styles, autohint y/n, subpixel etc.) |
Hi. I am new to gentoo.
I installed devnull overlay.
When i try to install fontconfig i get :
"Please rebuild freetype-2 with ubuntu enabled."
i can't find freetype-2 with emerge.
anyone can help? |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: |
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din_vl wrote: | ocin wrote: | You need to add devnull overlay, and install fontconfig freetype libXft and cairo from there, after that make sure you have the fontconfig module for eselect (eselect-fontconfig) and then adjust your settings with it. My configuration looks like: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/eselect_fontconfig_list You can play around with it until you are statisfied (like trying different hinting styles, autohint y/n, subpixel etc.) |
Hi. I am new to gentoo.
I installed devnull overlay.
When i try to install fontconfig i get :
"Please rebuild freetype-2 with ubuntu enabled."
i can't find freetype-2 with emerge.
anyone can help? |
if you get this error you are not using freetype from devnull overlay. after adding devnull overlay, "emerge -auvDN @world" should do it. |
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din_vl n00b
Joined: 05 Jan 2009 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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ocin wrote: | din_vl wrote: | ocin wrote: | You need to add devnull overlay, and install fontconfig freetype libXft and cairo from there, after that make sure you have the fontconfig module for eselect (eselect-fontconfig) and then adjust your settings with it. My configuration looks like: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/eselect_fontconfig_list You can play around with it until you are statisfied (like trying different hinting styles, autohint y/n, subpixel etc.) |
Hi. I am new to gentoo.
I installed devnull overlay.
When i try to install fontconfig i get :
"Please rebuild freetype-2 with ubuntu enabled."
i can't find freetype-2 with emerge.
anyone can help? |
if you get this error you are not using freetype from devnull overlay. after adding devnull overlay, "emerge -auvDN @world" should do it. |
Thanks. Got it.
But, whats better upgrade only freetype (only what i need) or better upgrade all world?
Is it save to upgrade world? |
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Hell-Razor Guru
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 458
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a new link to the how-to? I have dug through about 20 ish pages with no luck... _________________ Don't ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody. |
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Cyberstudio Apprentice
Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 240 Location: /usr/src/linux
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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din_vl wrote: | ocin wrote: | din_vl wrote: | ocin wrote: | You need to add devnull overlay, and install fontconfig freetype libXft and cairo from there, after that make sure you have the fontconfig module for eselect (eselect-fontconfig) and then adjust your settings with it. My configuration looks like: http://nico.core.ws/tmp/eselect_fontconfig_list You can play around with it until you are statisfied (like trying different hinting styles, autohint y/n, subpixel etc.) |
Hi. I am new to gentoo.
I installed devnull overlay.
When i try to install fontconfig i get :
"Please rebuild freetype-2 with ubuntu enabled."
i can't find freetype-2 with emerge.
anyone can help? |
if you get this error you are not using freetype from devnull overlay. after adding devnull overlay, "emerge -auvDN @world" should do it. |
Thanks. Got it.
But, whats better upgrade only freetype (only what i need) or better upgrade all world?
Is it save to upgrade world? :roll: |
sure it's safe to update world. the newest packages are in world waiting for update after sync, however if you only want to rebuild or update one package which already is installed use "emerge -1 packagename"
@Cyberstudio: The howto you have posted is still valid. |
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mwhitlock Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:57 am Post subject: NewSPR versus ClearType-like |
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Since no one has posted a comparison, I'm stepping up.
http://home.mattwhitlock.com/~mattw/newspr_vs_cleartype-like.html
The two are very similar, but there are tiny differences. Personally, I like the newspr better (it looks a little sharper), but it's not a big enough difference for me to complain in the face of forward progress. |
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zigver Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 09 May 2003 Posts: 87
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:15 am Post subject: Re: NewSPR versus ClearType-like |
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mwhitlock wrote: | Personally, I like the newspr better (it looks a little sharper), but it's not a big enough difference for me to complain in the face of forward progress. |
I've compared with and without cleartype-like on my system and concluded the same. |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:17 am Post subject: |
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yeah, newspr is imho a bit better than cleartype too (btw: the screenshot does not exactly reflevt how it looks on the monitor) but since gentoo is using the cleartype patches it's easier to use that. Also nice to see how the font rendering is getting better and better with every update of the packages and or patches :) |
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Hell-Razor Guru
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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WELL I dont see any how-tos to make my shitti font any better... _________________ Don't ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody. |
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pezed n00b
Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 31
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I've switched to the gentoo portage freetype and cairo and its just not as good as the newspr was. Spacing seems wrong and i'm seeing red fringing on letters. Hopefully it will improve though. Is there some reason why the "newspr" can't continue to be included on the devnull overlay? |
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ocin Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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pezed wrote: | I've switched to the gentoo portage freetype and cairo and its just not as good as the newspr was. Spacing seems wrong and i'm seeing red fringing on letters. Hopefully it will improve though. Is there some reason why the "newspr" can't continue to be included on the devnull overlay? |
laziness + portage compability.
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swimmer Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2002 Posts: 1330 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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ROFL |
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Phlogiston Veteran
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 1925 Location: Europe, Swizerland
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:08 am Post subject: |
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You always use ff to compare the fonts. But do other apps pickup your font settings? For example opera does not here. Neiter some native qt apps.
Any hint?
/edit: Not sure why, but it works now _________________ Workstation: 5.1 SurroundSound, LIRC remote control; Laptop [IBM-T43]: patched sources, s2disk/ram, fingerprint sensor |
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mwhitlock Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 Location: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Phlogiston wrote: | You always use ff to compare the fonts. But do other apps pickup your font settings? For example opera does not here. Neiter some native qt apps. Any hint? |
Qt doesn't use Cairo. And Qt4 doesn't even use libXft. |
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bi3l Apprentice
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 268 Location: France
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Abraxas l33t
Joined: 25 May 2003 Posts: 814
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Personally I think cleartype is much worse, at least with light text on a dark background. I am using a dark theme and the light text looks multicolored instead of off-white. Text is much clearer when I turn cleartype off. |
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IvanMajhen Guru
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 392 Location: Croatia
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yabbadabbadont Advocate
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 4791 Location: 2 exits past crazy
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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IvanMajhen wrote: | Don't know why qt4 fonts are little lighter.... |
Probably because QT doesn't use the libraries these patches change to render fonts. At least that is what has been said (many times) earlier in this thread.
(and do you think it wise to advertise to the world that you are watching a pirated movie? ) |
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