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What TeX distribution are you using? |
TeX Live |
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71% |
[ 200 ] |
teTeX |
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18% |
[ 52 ] |
pTeX |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
other / third party |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
no TeX installation |
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9% |
[ 26 ] |
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Total Votes : 279 |
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ulm Developer
Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Mainz, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: What TeX distribution are you using? |
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Recently the question arose if we can remove the app-text/tetex package, see Bug 227443 or the discussion in gentoo-dev, http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_aad95416fcad03e3162d633bc1ce06bc.xml.
This poll is to get an idea how many users still have teTeX installed.
Comments why you haven't switched to TeX Live (or even, why you switched back) are also welcome.
Alexis Ballier
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furanku l33t
Joined: 08 May 2003 Posts: 905 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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May I add that TeX live 2008 was released these days. For a review of this release see here, german version hier. This might motivate some teTeX users to migrate to TeX live, as teTeX's development stopped more then two years ago. |
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kallamej Administrator
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 4975 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I still have tetex installed. I've never bothered to change because I don't really use it anymore. _________________ Please read our FAQ Forum, it answers many of your questions.
irc: #gentoo-forums on irc.libera.chat |
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Etal Veteran
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1931
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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I have teTeX, because it was pulled in by default. What's the difference between them?
I guess I should switch to texlive?
BTW, Here's the packages from the poll:
Quote: | app-text/ptex
app-text/tetex
app-text/texlive |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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I use tetex, because it's what I've always used and does what I need it to do. If some other TeX distribution does what I need as easily, I can use that.
I guess it's just an issue of classes and associated tools. I use AMS, APS RevTeX, index, pdflatex, graphicx, and also installed the beamer class for presentations. _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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TeXLive has been actually been built on top of teTeX. So it does the same plus new features. |
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Aquiles Apprentice
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 230 Location: Somewhere, surrounded by my circumstances.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Boy I didn't even know there are several TeX distributions (I knew there are other distributions for Windows and Mac though, so I'm only half alien ). I use TeTeX because that was the one I came to know of when I started using LaTeX quite a bunch of years ago. Anyway, if you say that TeX Live does actually the same plus other things, then I guess that wouldn't be a problem swtching to TeX Live. _________________ Aquiles |
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ulm Developer
Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Mainz, Germany
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Bill Cosby Guru
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 430 Location: Aachen, Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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TexLive here, and eagerly awaiting TexLive 2008 to use with ConTeXt _________________ The Creature from Jekyll Island. |
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Punraz n00b
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 16 Location: Aachen Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
I've been using teTeX because I've installed it on my system years ago and it just worked. Now I have installed TeXlive. But what about my beloved dinbrief? Do I have to install texlive-latexextra for it or is there a better style for writing letters according to DIN?
Cheers
Punraz |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Punraz wrote: |
I've been using teTeX because I've installed it on my system years ago and it just worked. Now I have installed TeXlive. But what about my beloved dinbrief? Do I have to install texlive-latexextra for it or is there a better style for writing letters according to DIN?
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scrlttr2.cls from the KOMA package (found in dev-texlive/texlive-latexrecommended) with the DIN style is my choice. Though you can still find dinbrief.sty in dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra as you already guessed(?). A hint for everyone: Use dev-tex/texmfind to find out in which TeXLive package a style or class file can be found.
Even more folks from Aachen! Hooray! |
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Punraz n00b
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 16 Location: Aachen Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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V-Li wrote: | scrlttr2.cls from the KOMA package (found in dev-texlive/texlive-latexrecommended) with the DIN style is my choice. |
Hello V-Li,
thank you for the hint regarding scrlttr2! It really seems to be a mighty tool for writing letters (even serial letters!). I browsed through the KOMA documentation and created a basic letter template for my needs, so that I just have to start writing.
Cheers
punraz
P.S: OOOCHE! (german dialect for Aachen)
Jibts ne öcher gentoo Gruppe, wa? |
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srunni Guru
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 365
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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I have moved from teTeX to TeX Live. You can remove teTeX from Portage now _________________
Patrick Ewing wrote: | if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s a duck, right? So if this duck is not giving you the noise that you want, you’ve got to just punch that duck until it returns what you expect. |
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myceliv Apprentice
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 178
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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I probably should have voted tetex instead of texlive. It's just luck that I recently migrated. tetex seems to have been installed by default by some ebuild that wanted it, or leftover from my original install, and I never even knew it was on my system till overhearing that tetex might be going away soon. So there are probably more users out there like me that don't care what satisfies the virtual as long as it's a painless transition. (i.e. that don't consciously use latex.)
Migration guide seems good. My case was very simple. Intentionally migrating was very smooth. The only weird thing was today building something from a non-gentoo repo that I wouldn't have expected to need anything related to latex. But in reality it did convert tex to pdf for some of its documentation, and assumed some things from texlive-latexextra would be installed. But that sort of thing is to be expected with non-standard repos. |
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mrsteven Veteran
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 1938
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I switched from tetex to Tex Live some days ago, following the upgrade guide. No problems so far. _________________ Unix philosophy: "Do one thing and do it well."
systemd: "Do everything and do it wrong." |
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nabla² Apprentice
Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 280
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I've been using texlive for quite some time, first manual
installation, then testing ebuilds, then the real ones. Since the
texlive installation can be made very slim, I think we don't need
tetex anymore.
PS: I'm curious about the new texlive manager. AFAICS updating
packages creates some problems with portage. Will this be supported in
a way? _________________ Gentoo on Intel Core Duo 2 E6750, Gigabyte P35-DS3P, NVIDIA 8800GTS (amd64) |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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nabla² wrote: |
PS: I'm curious about the new texlive manager. AFAICS updating
packages creates some problems with portage. Will this be supported in
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As far as I understood Alexis (Ballier) it is not supported or allowed within Portage's version of TeXLive. Debian has a similar policy if I am informed correctly. However, I want to provide an interface between the TeXLive updates and Portage (like g-cpan), though my ideas are rough and not backed up by code at the moment. Due to time constraints implementation will take some time here. |
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bandreabis Advocate
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 2490 Location: イタリアのロディで
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Once (upon a time) I installed Lyx (never known how to use it ), but if I remember well it depended on tetex.
Now, an emerge --depclean wants to unmerge tetex. Do anyone know if Lyx has become a stand alone program?
Andrea _________________ Il numero di post non fa di me un esperto! Anzi! |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: |
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bandreabis wrote: | Once (upon a time) I installed Lyx (never known how to use it ), but if I remember well it depended on tetex.
Now, an emerge --depclean wants to unmerge tetex. Do anyone know if Lyx has become a stand alone program?
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It hasn't. |
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gforum Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 140
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde? |
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srunni Guru
Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 365
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: |
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gforum wrote: | no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde? | Nope, trying it out now. _________________
Patrick Ewing wrote: | if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it’s a duck, right? So if this duck is not giving you the noise that you want, you’ve got to just punch that duck until it returns what you expect. |
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mv Watchman
Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 6747
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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gforum wrote: | no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde? |
kile and texmaker are rather similar. I was always wondering whether they are branches from the same project. Anyway, both will destroy files which are not encoded in the encoding qt/kde is configured (i.e. just loading and saving will remove/destroy e.g. iso88591 symbols like umlauts etc if for other kde applications you want utf8; texmaker at least obeys LC_*). This is completely inacceptable for an editor, because in general you do not know the encoding of a file you open. |
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Kern3lP4nic Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 116 Location: Someone, somewhere, in the north of Italy
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Kile rocks. And, I voted for texlive. |
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evoweiss Veteran
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1678 Location: Edinburgh, UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: |
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srunni wrote: | I have moved from teTeX to TeX Live. You can remove teTeX from Portage now |
I did the same thing relatively recently. I experienced no real problems in the transition, either. Naturally, people may have different experiences, but those are my two cents/pence/eurocents.
Alex |
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V-Li Retired Dev
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 613
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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gforum wrote: | no one here ever hear of the fantastic top notch 'kile', for kde? |
I prefer AUCTeX/preview-latex for the fantastic Emacs editor. |
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