Fix website or risk going down in flames

jshanab · Guru Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 359

I have used gentoo for years, it has been my distro of choice. But...

This website is seriously broken, If not fixed, it stands to ruin the gentoo distro.

1) The online package database no longer has a search and you can't even scroll to the next page. It was a primary resource, now it is useless.
Ok, it got hacked but that was months (year?) ago
2) There is a separate website that was really nice, I found it in a gentoo forum. The forum is one of the reasons I liked gentoo so much. The people were always so heavy.
which brings me to...
3) I can't find it again because the search no longer works in the forum. It reduces everything to a single word and finds crap or nothing. Or 20 page long diatribes that can't be searched.

C'mon already
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Sadako · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:17 am Post subject:

1) The search function for packages.gentoo.org is supposed to be in the works, just remember it's an entirely new web app and be patient (although I have to admit, without the search it's of very little use to me at the moment...)

2) You're probably referring to www.gentoo-portage.com, although there are some more alternatives

3) I have to agree with you here, half the time when I want to find something specific I have to use google with "site:forums.gentoo.org"...
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nexus780 · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:49 am Post subject:

I agree with your points though I don't think the impact is that big.
packages.gentoo.org is a huge embarrassment but gentoo-portage.com provides more functionality (even though the page seems to load a bit slower but it's still fine).

The forum search is a complete waste of time though, I use scroogle (google but claims to have only 2 days cookie or whatever) with site:forums.gentoo.org now... it's annoying that f.g.o effectively doesnt have a search but it's not the end of the world.

What it does certainly do (especially the two things combined, and the fact that it took forever to even bring back the current simple p.g.o) make Gentoo look very unprofessional to outside observers. The search problem could be an inhibition to newer people. Certainly people who come from other distros may turn away kind of on principle.

In any case, what works great though is Gentoo itself - the ebuilds and portage are getting better and better. And of course the software itself is getting better as well. And the GMN got off to a great start too.

Although I do wanna try my hands on Debian-Hurd (or even better Gentoo-Hurd, will post for that later)...

Anyways, who cares about two minor problems that haver perfectly good workarounds when the software itself is great

jshanab · Guru Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 359

This started today when I wanted to check out codeblocks.
There is no way to tell what version is in portage. The codeblocks says version 8.2 certainly we can't really be at 1.0??
So I try to search the forum. Go ahead, follow that line of thought. Even veterans may go elseware. Perhaps if the descriptions when you do an emerge --search were a little better...

gentoo-portage is ok. There is one I like a lot better, but for the life of me, I can't find it. I will have to wait till monday, it is book marked at work.
(it is the one with how-tos and graphs.

hopeless, the question is are you as sexy as your avatar? :-)

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Yamakuzure · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: Re: The impact is that big.

cjubon · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject:

http://pebuilds.peschke.us/ is another alternative to the - until now, not very appealing - revival of p.g.o.
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R.Smith · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject:

Just to stick my oar in regarding gentoo-portage; it's sometimes really useful and other times exceptionally not. There's loads of cases of: "<use flag> provides support for <use flag>".

Sadako · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:44 am Post subject:

R.Smith · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

cjubon · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject:

lyallp · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Re: The impact is that big.

[quote="jshanab"
gentoo-portage is ok. There is one I like a lot better, but for the life of me, I can't find it. I will have to wait till monday, it is book marked at work.
[/quote]

I find using http://del.icio.us to be really useful for bookmarks - no more "it's at work, it's at home"
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desultory · Bodhisattva Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9410

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Duplicate Threads.

For the first point refer to topic "packages.gentoo.org". For the second point refer to topic "packages.gentoo.org alternatives" and bear in mind the it is not an exhaustive list of alternatives. For the third point, refer to topic "Gentoo forum search sucks".