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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:49 pm    Post subject: Soundblaster Pro, Genkernel, Alsa help Reply with quote

Hello all, for the last couple of days i have been working on getting sound working on my Laptop. Its a Fujitsu C353 Lifebook. Pentium 2 300 mhz machine.

I know the sound card inside it is a 16-bit SB Pro. Now i am using Genkernel for my kernel configuration. And i was hoping sound would work no problem with that but no it didn't. I have been trying to mess with the kernel using
Code:
genkernel --config

and i thought i had compiled the proper modules and everything but still no sound and i get the /dev/dsp/ can't be opened when i start up KDE.

Now many of you will tell me to use ALSA but previously following the ALSA guide i ran into this problem https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=453654#453654

And the ALSA guide mentions nothing about genkernel, so i was wondering if the install would be the same.

I would write more, and i am sure you need more info but i must head out to work. Any help you can offer me will be appreciated
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Soundblaster Pro, Genkernel, Alsa help Reply with quote

Sabrewolf wrote:
I know the sound card inside it is a 16-bit SB Pro

I am pretty sure that this is in fact NOT a Soundblaster Pro. For sure it's some cheap chip that calls itself compatible but like most chips it gains this compatibility only through their windoze drivers.

do an lspci -v (emerge the pciutils if you get a "command not found") and post the output here ...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bash-2.05b# lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 03)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
Memory at <unassigned> (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Citicorp TTI: Unknown device 1060
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 255
Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at fea00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
Memory at fed00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]

00:04.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1220 (rev 02)
Subsystem: Citicorp TTI: Unknown device 1036
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 9
Memory at 10000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=04, sec-latency=176
I/O window 0: 00000000-00000003
I/O window 1: 00000000-00000003
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

00:04.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1220 (rev 02)
Subsystem: Citicorp TTI: Unknown device 1036
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 9
Memory at 10001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=08, sec-latency=176
I/O window 0: 00000000-00000003
I/O window 1: 00000000-00000003
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64
I/O ports at fcf0 [size=16]

00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9
I/O ports at fc60 [size=32]

00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9

00:10.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics 56k WinModem (rev 01)
Subsystem: Citicorp TTI LB2 LT Modem V.90 56k
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 9
Memory at fecffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
I/O ports at fcc8 [size=8]
I/O ports at f800 [size=256]
Capabilities: [f8] Power Management version 2
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://support.fujitsupc.com/CS/Portal/support.do

notebook C series C353, if you want to see the spec they say it has

Processor

300MHz Intel® Pentium® II processor
256KB On-die L2 cache
32-bit PCI bus architecture

Memory

32MB SDRAM pre-installed
64MB, 32MB and 16MB SDRAM upgrades.
One upgrade slot available for up to 96MB system memory

Video

12.1" SVGA TFT display

Internal max:
800 x 600 resolution
(256K colors)


External max:
1024 x 768 resolution
(64k colors)

Simultaneous support of external monitor and internal display
NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD graphics controller with 2MB Embedded video memory, Direct3D(TM) and DirectDraw(TM)

Storage

4.3GB hard drive
3.5" 1.44MB floppy disk drive
24x max CD-ROM drive

Audio

16-bit SoundBlaster(TM) Pro-compatible stereo sound
Two built-in speakers and a microphone
Headphone, stereo line in and microphone jacks
Volume control dial

Communication

Built-in 56K1 V.90 modem

User Interfaces

ErgoTrac - Fujitsu's precise and comfortable pointing device
Full-size, 87-key keyboard with 19mm spacing and 3mm stroke
Windows keys for quick access to Windows functions
Large palmrest
Easy-to-read status display, with indicators for power on, suspend, AC power, battery status (life remaining), battery charging, hard drive access, CD-ROM access, floppy disk drive access, PC Card access, Caps Lock, Num Lock and Scroll Lock

Interface Ports

USB, serial, enhanced parallel, external monitor, PS/2 (Y-connector support) and Modem (RJ-11)

PC Card Slots

Combination slot for either Two Type II or one Type III
32-bit PC CardBus architecture
Zoomed video support (bottom slot only)


Hope every little bit help :oops:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm ... your sound chip seems to be an isa based chipset - which is not listet in the lspci listing. try running pnpdump (included in sys-apps/isapnptools) ... maybe that will produce some usefull informations about your soundchip.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bash-2.05b# pnpdump
# $Id: pnpdump_main.c,v 1.27 2001/04/30 21:54:53 fox Exp $
# Release isapnptools-1.26
#
# This is free software, see the sources for details.
# This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK
#
# For details of the output file format, see isapnp.conf(5)
#
# For latest information and FAQ on isapnp and pnpdump see:
# http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/
#
# Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DHAVE_PROC -DENABLE_PCI -DHAVE_SCHED_SETSCHEDULER -DHAVE_NANOSLEEP -DWANT_TO_VALIDATE
#
# Trying port address 0273
# Trying port address 027b
# Trying port address 0283
# Trying port address 028b
# Trying port address 0293
# Trying port address 029b
# Trying port address 02a3
# Trying port address 02ab
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# No boards found
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ha, just had a chat with one of the Siemens/Fujitsu Support Guys which crawled through their tech docs and he said the chip is a "Cirrus Logic Crystal 4237b" which is supported via the ALSA drivers -> ISA Devices -> "Generic Cirrus Logic CS4236+ driver"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if i go ahead and do ALSA i should be fine? Generic Cirrus Logic CS4236+ driver right

Is the install the same even with Genkernel?

CS4236
CS4236B

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

is it B, cause i am not seeing CD4236+
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, alsa should do. for the driver-not-appearing-in-the-kernel-issue, i am running the latest 2.6.0-test3-mm1 here which infact provides that one.
and yes, it's "4237b" (thats what the fujitsu guy said) but the 4236+ driver provides support for that chip too. i assume you're using the standard gentoo kernel (2.4.20-r5 or something like that) so if you emerge the latest alsa-drivers you should get the drivers from that package.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

still no luck :evil:

bash-2.05b# modprobe snd-cs4236
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.o: init_module: No su
ch device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.o: insmod /lib/module s/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.o: insmod snd-cs4236 failed

bash-2.05b# lsmod
Module Size Used by Tainted: PF
snd-seq-oss 24192 0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event 3264 0 [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq 30384 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-seq-device 3744 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq]
snd-pcm-oss 34820 0 (unused)
snd-pcm 53376 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-page-alloc 5748 0 [snd-pcm]
snd-timer 12516 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-mixer-oss 10936 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd 26276 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-seq-devi
ce snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore 3364 2 [snd]
ide-tape 50064 0 (autoclean)
st 26192 0 (autoclean) (unused)
serial_cs 7344 0 (unused)
serial 49092 0 [serial_cs]
isa-pnp 28100 0 [serial]
xirc2ps_cs 16580 1
ds 7432 2 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs]
i82365 41408 2
pcmcia_core 44288 0 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]
usb-storage 55608 0 (unused)
hid 12468 0 (unused)
uhci 23008 0 (unused)
usbcore 55264 1 [usb-storage hid uhci]

and i used this guide here for help.... what am i doing wrong http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=Cirrus+Logic&card=CS4236&chip=CS4236&module=cs4236#intro
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, maybe try a newer kernel ... i am currently running 2.6.0-test3-mm1 and i am really happy with it ... it runs MUCH better than 2.4.20 ... also, your chip is named explicitly in the alsa drivers which come with the kernel, so no need to install the alsa-driver package at all :)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do i update to 2.6.0 ?

i downloaded it and when i tried to run make menuconfig it still listed 2.4.20 or do i have to start from scratch, which i can do if i need to
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

easy ... first "emerge module-init-tools" and then
"emerge sys-kernel/mm-sources"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still have not had much luck even with the newer kernel. I had some unresolved symbols still

So i installed XP for the hell of seeing what windows uses to get my sound to work.
Crystal WDM Audio Codec
Location on Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to ISA bridge (EIO
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