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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 2:22 pm    Post subject: vcron: 1 file need updating Reply with quote

I merged vcron which almost goes nicely, but when it finishes it says that 1 file need updating and to run "emerge --help config" for more info.
Doing that gives me the info about ifname(?) to search for files that need updating. Some kind of protection offered by emerge.

This is what I found:

/etc/._cfg0000_crontab

Strange thing is that when you use on of the other two cron's you also have to do a "crontab /etc/crontab" while that is not nescesarry for vcron.
I just did "crontab /etc/crontab" to see if it works, but nope. It doesn't solve it.

So, can someone help me with this? I just wanna get it right you see?

thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U shuld emege gentoolkit and then run etc-update to update the confiog file. Gentoo will not automatically overwrite any fines in /etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks, will try that one.

But what is "gentoolkit"? Why is it needed to update the config file?
It's also nowhere in the installation guide.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freshy98 wrote:
But what is "gentoolkit"? Why is it needed to update the config file?

It's not needed, but etc-update (which is included in gentoolkit) puts a bit of lipstick on the process. gentoolkit is a collection of system administration utilities that is mentioned in the FAQ under "When updating a package using emerge or ebuild, how do I avoid clobbering my config files?" If you think it's an important tool, please vote in my silly little poll.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your're a bit confussing.
First you say "gentoolkit" is not needed, then you say "etc-update" is included in the toolkit. :?:

If "etc-update" is included "gentoolkit" then "gentoolkit" should be made standard in system. Seems obvious to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

freshy98 wrote:
Your're a bit confussing.

You are not the first person to notice this fact. :)
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First you say "gentoolkit" is not needed, then you say "etc-update" is included in the toolkit. :?:

gentoolkit is needed if you want to use etc-update. etc-update is not the only way to update config files - you can do it by hand. Therefore, gentoolkit is not needed to update config files, but it makes it easier if you do install it and use etc-update.

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If "etc-update" is included "gentoolkit" then "gentoolkit" should be made standard in system. Seems obvious to me.

Seems that way to me, too, but I was going to wait to see what the poll showed before I decided whether or not to file a bug report.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your're a bit confussing.

You are not the first person to notice this fact. :)

They say that about me here in the west of Holland. I come from the east of Holland and have a different accent and dialect. The dialect is ok, I can speak normal Dutch. That no problem. But the accent... They often can't here a word I'm saying :lol: Comes in handy now and then :lol:

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First you say "gentoolkit" is not needed, then you say "etc-update" is included in the toolkit. :?:

gentoolkit is needed if you want to use etc-update. etc-update is not the only way to update config files - you can do it by hand. Therefore, gentoolkit is not needed to update config files, but it makes it easier if you do install it and use etc-update.

Then what is the other way of doing it? I don't have internet where I stay mid weeks.

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If "etc-update" is included "gentoolkit" then "gentoolkit" should be made standard in system. Seems obvious to me.

Seems that way to me, too, but I was going to wait to see what the poll showed before I decided whether or not to file a bug report.[/quote]

Yeah, and that it be noted in the Installation Guide that when you emerge vcron you must also etc-update.

[edit]don't quote quotes 8) [/edit]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then what is the other way of doing it? I don't have internet where I stay mid weeks.

You can use diff to compare the two versions, and then either:
a. throw away the new one because you don't like it;
b. overwrite your old one with the new one because you do like it;
c. manually make some changes to your old one and then delete the new one because you like only some parts of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, regarding etc-update, at least one member on this board (Autobot, I believe) has reported some problems with etc-update deleting all of his /etc files. May not have been etc-update's fault -- who knows.

Either way, given the importance of /etc files, backing things up before you go in and start mucking around is probably a wise idea. In fact, Autobot posted a nice script in the tips 'n' tricks forum that automatically backs up your /etc files each time you boot.

Or, you can be an stubborn old stick in the mud like me and just use diff. ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2002 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

klieber: I think I will be stubborn too. Kinda have a reputation for it :wink:

thanks rac! will try it tonight.

Now only to get KDE merged. stupid kdelibs....
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