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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2002 11:42 pm    Post subject: kdm won't start gnome or kde or fluxbox Reply with quote

I've added 5 users (for my family), but I can't figure out why gnome, kde or fluxbox doesn't start. (I've been spoiled by Mandrake which handles all this for me).

All I can do is use root in kde or gnome. (Fluxbox is a bust so far).

I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I haven't found it in the forums (am I the only one with this problem?)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: kdm won't start gnome or kde or fluxbox Reply with quote

What is the error you are getting?
iplayfast wrote:
I've added 5 users (for my family), but I can't figure out why gnome, kde or fluxbox doesn't start. (I've been spoiled by Mandrake which handles all this for me).

All I can do is use root in kde or gnome. (Fluxbox is a bust so far).

I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I haven't found it in the forums (am I the only one with this problem?)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:17 am    Post subject: The error I'm getting Reply with quote

When i use gnome and fluxbox the screen resets after awhile, and I'm back at kdm.

Using kde, it goes through a set up, and talks about problems writing to dcop or something (interprocess communcations). In kde.log it talks about /usr/kde/2/... (see below) which makes no sense since I'm using kde 3.

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /root/.kde/share/config/kdm: No such file o
r directory
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /usr/kde/2/share/config/kdm: No such file o
r directory
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /usr/share/config/kdm: No such file or dire
ctory
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from
list!
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
sessions: SessionTypes=Xsession,kde-3.0.2,
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: The error I'm getting Reply with quote

These "errors" are normal. It is looking for kdm config files in different locations if it can. Did you do:
Code:

useradd -m <user_name>

to create the users? Their home directories may not exist. Do:
Code:

cat /etc/passwd

Check whether home directories listed under their names exist.

iplayfast wrote:
...
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /root/.kde/share/config/kdm: No such file o
r directory
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /usr/kde/2/share/config/kdm: No such file o
r directory
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: cd: /usr/share/config/kdm: No such file or dire
ctory
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from
list!
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
sessions: SessionTypes=Xsession,kde-3.0.2,
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you didn't create home directories as described above, just do:
Code:

userdel <user_name>
useradd -m <user_name>

and you should be all set.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naan Yaar wrote:
If you didn't create home directories as described above, just do:
Code:

userdel <user_name>
useradd -m <user_name>

and you should be all set.

I tried that to no avail. I even tried userdel -r <user_name> and then adding it back.

However I tried adding a new name (with -m) and that worked ok for gnome and kde.

So it would appear that the problem is that the original username has screwed up something. (But what!?)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:17 am    Post subject: I'm making progress. Reply with quote

I deleted all the chris files (my username that I'm testing with) in the tmp directory. Now I can log in with gnome and kde. Still some problems though.
Gnome, the top menu bar doesn't show up. The only way I can get out is ctrl-alt-backspace. Also there's no programs configureed (is that right?)

kde complains about sound. I get sound when I log in as root, (although it seems that the sounds are jumbled at startup). When logged in as chris it says It couldn't open or read (can't remember which) /dev/dsp permission denied. ls /dev/dsp -l shows:
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jul 14 17:10 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp

Fluxbox still not working at all.

Thanks for your help so far. Any more ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: I'm making progress. Reply with quote

iplayfast wrote:
kde complains about sound. I get sound when I log in as root, (although it seems that the sounds are jumbled at startup). When logged in as chris it says It couldn't open or read (can't remember which) /dev/dsp permission denied. ls /dev/dsp -l shows:
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jul 14 17:10 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp
Sounds like the user is not in the audio group.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2002 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm making progress. Reply with quote

Good call re: tmp dir :). There may be some stray gnome daemons left behind when you logged in as the user without a home directory. To solve this, you can do:

- log in to the console as the user. Don't have his session open in X. Do "oaf-slay" from the console.
- do "find /tmp -user <user_name> -exec rm {} \;" to delete user files in /tmp
- nb. you can user "-ok rm {}..." instead of -exec... to get confirmation on every file you delete
- do "find /home/<user_name> -ok rm {} \;" to delete stray files left behind by previous attempts. Remember to not to delete .bashrc, etc.
- log in as the user into gnome again

I shudder as I am typing this :D, but you can also do a reboot to kill off stray daemon processes that may prevent things from working correctly instead of doing oaf-slay, etc.

Re: audio problem in kde. You need to add the user to the audio group. You do this by doing:
Code:

usermod -G audio <user_name>

iplayfast wrote:
I deleted all the chris files (my username that I'm testing with) in the tmp directory. Now I can log in with gnome and kde. Still some problems though.
Gnome, the top menu bar doesn't show up. The only way I can get out is ctrl-alt-backspace. Also there's no programs configureed (is that right?)

kde complains about sound. I get sound when I log in as root, (although it seems that the sounds are jumbled at startup). When logged in as chris it says It couldn't open or read (can't remember which) /dev/dsp permission denied. ls /dev/dsp -l shows:
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jul 14 17:10 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp

Fluxbox still not working at all.

Thanks for your help so far. Any more ideas?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:09 am    Post subject: got it!!! Reply with quote

I've now got gnome and sound! beautiful. Gnome is acting very feature poor, but that might just be V 2. (I seleect gnome_terminal, and the terminal pops up and says it can't find itself!).

Now onto fluxbox (since that seems to be the current rave!).

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: got it!!! Reply with quote

Curious... what did the trick in the end?
iplayfast wrote:
I've now got gnome and sound! beautiful. Gnome is acting very feature poor, but that might just be V 2. (I seleect gnome_terminal, and the terminal pops up and says it can't find itself!).

Now onto fluxbox (since that seems to be the current rave!).

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: got it!!! Reply with quote

Naan Yaar wrote:
Curious... what did the trick in the end?

a reboot, and usermod -G audio <user_name> for all the users. I then added speechd which worked. (and then didn't!) It seems that I am to be ever baffled by my computer.
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