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Berniyh l33t
Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 677
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Chain wrote: | sandbox violations over here too.
However, I *WOULD NOT* disable it, since it writes into the system, where you won't find the files anymore. Or it even might overwrite things you might need. So, waiting now... |
Because of things like this I've got a testing machine, so if anything goes wrong, nevermind, could be worse. I wouldn't even consider installing KDE4 on my "stable" machine which I use to work (no, not even with a different user account).
Nevertheless it should get fixed. |
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Chain Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Vienna
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I use my HTPC for this. So shooting KDE is okay, but ruining the whole system isn't |
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Maleita Apprentice
Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 246 Location: Brasil -> São Paulo->Campinas
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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hi,people sorry about "spamming" it is not my intention ,there are many good well people is this thread,bye for they. |
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neekibo n00b
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 49
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4 |
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Hi all,
I can't emerge kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4. Code: | tail /var/log/portage/kde-base\:kdelibs-9999.4\:20071007-093133.log
[100%] Built target nepomuk
>>> Source compiled.
--------------------------- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---------------------------
LOG FILE = "/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-kde-base_-_kdelibs-9999.4-11830.log"
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
unlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Is the listed file the only one that is causing the VIOLATION ? If so it should be save to use FEATURES="-sandbox"...
Thanks
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mikedee Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if it is mentioned somewhere else but I cannot find it...
Which 'support' libraries do we need these days and which versions do we need?
I am having problems with strigi-9999 at the moment, but maybe I only need 0.5.5? I build all of these from svn but some of them may now not need to be the latest versions?
media-libs/taglib
net-libs/telepathy-qt
net-voip/tapioca-qt
dev-libs/soprano
app-misc/strigi
TYIA
My entire kde4 build script is this at the moment, how is everyone else doing it? Everything here is ** keyworded
Code: | #!/bin/sh
emerge -vta media-libs/taglib net-libs/telepathy-qt net-voip/tapioca-qt dev-libs/soprano app-misc/strigi kde-base/kdelibs kde-base/kdepimlibs kde-base/kdebase kde-base/kdeaddons kde-base/kdeadmin kde-base/kdeartwork kde-base/kdegames kde-base/kdegraphics kde-base/kdemultimedia kde-base/kdepim kde-base/kdesdk kde-base/kdetoys kde-base/kdeutils kde-base/kdevplatform kde-base/kdevelop kde-base/kdewebdev plasma-extras
rm -f /etc/env.d/44kdepaths-kde-svn
env-update
source /etc/profile |
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Berniyh l33t
Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 677
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4 |
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neekibo wrote: | Hi all,
I can't emerge kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4.
I do an emerge, and it stops after 100% build with no errors (~40 min).
Succeeding packeges will NOT be emerged. Nothing is installed in /usr/kde/.
It seems like doing a "make" without "make install".
Some advise here ?
Code: | tail /var/log/portage/kde-base\:kdelibs-9999.4\:20071007-093133.log
[100%] Built target nepomuk
>>> Source compiled.
--------------------------- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY ---------------------------
LOG FILE = "/var/log/sandbox/sandbox-kde-base_-_kdelibs-9999.4-11830.log"
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
unlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-neekibo
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Thanks |
As I said before, you can circumvent this, by setting FEATURES=-sandbox. However, this is
NOT recommended, since you will miss an important security feature. |
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neekibo n00b
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 49
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4 |
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Berniyh wrote: | As I said before, you can circumvent this, by setting FEATURES=-sandbox. However, this is
NOT recommended, since you will miss an important security feature. | Thanks, I just changed my post :=)
However, is the listed file the only one ? If so, it shouldn't matter. |
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ddeflyer n00b
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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ddeflyer wrote: | Zephyrus wrote: | @ddeflyer: There's no need for a live kdebase-workspace ebuild because workspace is included in kdebase on the SVN server. |
Peculiar. When I start kde4, it was just giving a blank desktop. After a bunch of fiddling I have gotten it to show a bar at the bottom with two little boxes in it saying "This object could not be loaded" Any ideas?
My emerge --info is:
Code: | Portage 2.1.3.11 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0, gcc-4.2.0, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.22-gentoo-r8-Testing x86_64)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.22-gentoo-r8-Testing x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:20:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17-r1
dev-lang/python: 2.5.1-r2
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.10-r5
sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1
sys-devel/automake: 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils: 2.18
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.22-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.93.0/env /usr/kde/3.93.0/share/config /usr/kde/3.93.0/shutdown /usr/kde/svn/env /usr/kde/svn/share/config /usr/kde/svn/shutdown /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ "
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/layman/kde"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X acl alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dri dvd flac fortran gdbm gpm iconv ipv6 isdnlog kde midi mmx mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd python qt3 qt4 readline reflection session spl sse sse2 ssl tcpd truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode xorg zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia"
Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
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Adding as an after thought: The stuff that I fiddled with was some of my variables such as paths and such. I did this by using the .bashrc that is at this link: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc As far as other software goes, this is a brand new install, stage three with bootstrap after the install (mostly all ~amd64 though with a few stable branch packages left that I haven't updated yet.)
To do the install I ran layman and unmaksed kde-9999.4 then filled in the package.keywords file and package.use file. After all the required packages were unmasked and and use variables set it compiled without a complaint. When the desktop did work I tried to reemerge all the the 9999.4 version packages I had unmasked, and I hit the snag with kde-libs that others are hitting now. All the building was done Monday and Tuesday'ish
I can't think of anything else that might be important to say. |
Any help? _________________ -David |
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Ingmarv Retired Dev
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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ddeflyer wrote: | Peculiar. When I start kde4, it was just giving a blank desktop. After a bunch of fiddling I have gotten it to show a bar at the bottom with two little boxes in it saying "This object could not be loaded" Any ideas? |
The desktop is broken upstream, if the KDE code works, the ebuilds will install you need. You shouldn't need to compile anything, from source, or other external things...
Hope that clears up your questions. |
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tytanick Apprentice
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 162 Location: Poland, Gdansk
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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hi, i am trying to compile kde-base/kickoff-9999.4, but no results,
Code: | ERROR
konqbookmarkmanager.h: No such file or director |
It tells me that i need to install konqueror ??? (if so, i also need to install whole kde 3.5.7 !!!!)
BTW, take a look on my pulpit: http://images26.fotosik.pl/98/65e8c3ae37018bf1.png
Code: | P.S
Now i also recive this message from x server: Could not run kdeinit4 |
Code: | [ 67%] [ 70%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_launcher.dir/ui/contextmenufactory.o
Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/kickoff.dir/ui/contextmenufactory.o
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp:36:33: error: konqbookmarkmanager.h: No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp:36:33: error: konqbookmarkmanager.h: No such file or directory
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp: In member function 'QAction* Kickoff::ContextMenuFactory::Private::advancedActionsMenu(const QString&) const':
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp:61: error: 'KonqBookmarkManager' has not been declared
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_launcher.dir/ui/contextmenufactory.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[ 72%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/kickoff.dir/ui/flipscrollview.o
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp: In member function 'QAction* Kickoff::ContextMenuFactory::Private::advancedActionsMenu(const QString&) const':
/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kickoff-9999.4/work/kickoff-9999.4/src/ui/contextmenufactory.cpp:61: error: 'KonqBookmarkManager' has not been declared
make[2]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/kickoff.dir/ui/contextmenufactory.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/plasma_applet_launcher.dir/all] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/kickoff.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2 |
_________________ Contact with me: http://www.tytanick.eu |
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kavol n00b
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 57 Location: .cz
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: Re: kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4 |
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neekibo wrote: | However, is the listed file the only one ? If so, it shouldn't matter. |
see the previous posts - the list changes over time
if you are trying KDE4 on a system that you may format & reinstall at any time, go ahead and disable the sandbox; otherwise I would not do that ... |
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Ingmarv Retired Dev
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: Re: kde-base/kdelibs-9999.4 |
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Just a short update to let you know that I'm working on a fix, stay tuned.
kavol wrote: | go ahead and disable the sandbox; otherwise I would not do that ... |
As kavol said, disabling the sandbox is an option, but a rather bad thing to do. |
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eremini Apprentice
Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 157
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Just so you know even with the latest eclass I still get
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
unlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
and loads off
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.Z16536
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.w16536
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.T16536
This is from kdebase (though kdelibs does the same thing) |
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Tagx n00b
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 61
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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If you try plasma now from svn, it is much improved! It actually works well. Only problem is that you have to right click on the clock or invisible systray on the panel and remove it to get the taskbar to show up. |
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Ingmarv Retired Dev
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your feedback ! Really appreciated.
eremini wrote: | Just so you know even with the latest eclass I still get
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
unlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
symlink: /root/.kde/tmp-localhost
and loads off
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.Z16536
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.w16536
open_wr: /usr/kde/svn/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop.lock.T16536
This is from kdebase (though kdelibs does the same thing) |
I've spent quite some time on this now, the desktop entry-related sandbox errors are fixed.
The problem I have left, is that if /root/.kde exist, (which should not be the case imho, you wouldn't run KDE as root, would you?), then you get the 4 sandbox errors, where it tries to link the tmp directory to a different place. If you don't have that directory, I get one sandbox error, which should be fixed by my last commit a minute ago. Could you please verify that ( after removing and/or backing up /root/.kde ) ? |
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codertux n00b
Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: kopete development using kdelibs&co from portage |
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Any ideas how I could do that? I've set up my env vars properly (i hope... I've used the values from 44kdepaths-kde-svn) but cmake still fails with:
Code: | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
/home/kde-devel/src/kdenetwork/kopete/CMakeLists.txt:2:
Unknown CMake command "KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL".
-- Configuring done
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Matteo Azzali Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1133
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ingmarv wrote: |
The problem I have left, is that if /root/.kde exist, (which should not be the case imho, you wouldn't run KDE as root, would you?), then you get the 4 sandbox errors, where it tries to link the tmp directory to a different place. If you don't have that directory, I get one sandbox error, which should be fixed by my last commit a minute ago. Could you please verify that ( after removing and/or backing up /root/.kde ) ? |
Hey! /root/.kde gets created as fast as you use something with kdesu, for example firewalls or even just for setting
the style to use for applications started as root within a user session. (eg: Kuroo, KUsers , K3b settings, kmyfirewall, etc.etc.)
at least that's the behaviour of kde3. _________________ Every day a new distro comes to birth. Every day a distro "eats" another.
If you're born distro, no matter what, start to run.
---- http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ---- http://tuxmobil.org/ |
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rafelbev n00b
Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 53
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Matteo Azzali wrote: | Ingmarv wrote: |
The problem I have left, is that if /root/.kde exist, (which should not be the case imho, you wouldn't run KDE as root, would you?), then you get the 4 sandbox errors, where it tries to link the tmp directory to a different place. If you don't have that directory, I get one sandbox error, which should be fixed by my last commit a minute ago. Could you please verify that ( after removing and/or backing up /root/.kde ) ? |
Hey! /root/.kde gets created as fast as you use something with kdesu, for example firewalls or even just for setting
the style to use for applications started as root within a user session. (eg: Kuroo, KUsers , K3b settings, kmyfirewall, etc.etc.)
at least that's the behaviour of kde3. |
What would be the best way to solve this issue without using FEATURES="-sandbox". I agree such a solution is a very big hack. Would like to see something more long term. Any pointers? |
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Matteo Azzali Retired Dev
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: kopete development using kdelibs&co from portage |
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codertux wrote: | Any ideas how I could do that? I've set up my env vars properly (i hope... I've used the values from 44kdepaths-kde-svn) but cmake still fails with:
Code: | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
/home/kde-devel/src/kdenetwork/kopete/CMakeLists.txt:2:
Unknown CMake command "KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL".
-- Configuring done
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It seems that you address a KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL options that cmake don't want, if it's something you have set
then remove it, I can't see it in latest kdenetwork-9999.4.ebuild (got with "layman -S kde") or in the kde4 eclasses. _________________ Every day a new distro comes to birth. Every day a distro "eats" another.
If you're born distro, no matter what, start to run.
---- http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ---- http://tuxmobil.org/ |
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Matteo Azzali Retired Dev
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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rafelbev wrote: |
What would be the best way to solve this issue without using FEATURES="-sandbox". I agree such a solution is a very big hack. Would like to see something more long term. Any pointers? |
moving /root/.kde and then reputting it in place is a decent workaround for now but the right solution would be
to fix the offending code or to find if there's a new cmake option to workaround that, cause it can't be a definitive solution. _________________ Every day a new distro comes to birth. Every day a distro "eats" another.
If you're born distro, no matter what, start to run.
---- http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ---- http://tuxmobil.org/ |
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rafelbev n00b
Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 53
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Matteo Azzali wrote: | rafelbev wrote: |
What would be the best way to solve this issue without using FEATURES="-sandbox". I agree such a solution is a very big hack. Would like to see something more long term. Any pointers? |
moving /root/.kde and then reputting it in place is a decent workaround for now but the right solution would be
to fix the offending code or to find if there's a new cmake option to workaround that, cause it can't be a definitive solution. |
I actually tried removing the /root/.kde folder altogether since (at the time) I figured that I never login inside kde as root. If you remove it, it grumbles with sandbox errors because it tries to do a mkdir /root/.kde. |
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codertux n00b
Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: kopete development using kdelibs&co from portage |
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Matteo Azzali wrote: | codertux wrote: | Any ideas how I could do that? I've set up my env vars properly (i hope... I've used the values from 44kdepaths-kde-svn) but cmake still fails with:
Code: | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
/home/kde-devel/src/kdenetwork/kopete/CMakeLists.txt:2:
Unknown CMake command "KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL".
-- Configuring done
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It seems that you address a KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL options that cmake don't want, if it's something you have set
then remove it, I can't see it in latest kdenetwork-9999.4.ebuild (got with "layman -S kde") or in the kde4 eclasses. |
I am using kdelibs, kdepimlibs, qt4 and all the others from the overlay, but kdenetwork has been checked out manually. |
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Matteo Azzali Retired Dev
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: kopete development using kdelibs&co from portage |
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codertux wrote: | Matteo Azzali wrote: | codertux wrote: | Any ideas how I could do that? I've set up my env vars properly (i hope... I've used the values from 44kdepaths-kde-svn) but cmake still fails with:
Code: | CMake Error: Error in cmake code at
/home/kde-devel/src/kdenetwork/kopete/CMakeLists.txt:2:
Unknown CMake command "KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL".
-- Configuring done
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It seems that you address a KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL options that cmake don't want, if it's something you have set
then remove it, I can't see it in latest kdenetwork-9999.4.ebuild (got with "layman -S kde") or in the kde4 eclasses. |
I am using kdelibs, kdepimlibs, qt4 and all the others from the overlay, but kdenetwork has been checked out manually. |
then your cmake should be complaining for KDE4_NO_ENABLE_FINAL variable, use ccmake in source dir and remove that
option (however, mixing ebuilds with plain checkout may need a lot of work). _________________ Every day a new distro comes to birth. Every day a distro "eats" another.
If you're born distro, no matter what, start to run.
---- http://www.linuxprinting.org/ ---- http://tuxmobil.org/ |
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Berniyh l33t
Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 677
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Remerged kdelibs with activated sandbox and a clean checkout.
I removed /root/.kde (since it is my testing machine) and no more sandbox errors for me anymore.
Will try the other packages now. |
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StifflerStealth Retired Dev
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like Aaron forgot to move over the plasma stuff from playground to the main trunk.
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2007/10/happy-thanksgiving.html
At least plasma will usable somewhat. Now that Beta 3 will be tagged soon, things should be a bit more stable. Though, once everything is tagged, then the unstable code will hit the tree. Compiling might break again. |
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