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tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: Forums UTF-8 conversion feedback |
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If you've got any questions about the recent UTF-8 conversion or you notice any posts that haven't been converted correctly post them here and we'll deal with them on a case-by-case basis.
If you have any problems with your username or Private Messages send an email to forum-mods@gentoo.org.
Mod Edit by NeddySeagoon - fixed typo and stuck
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tsuehpsyde Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 103
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Everything looks good guys. Thanks for the hard work, and glad to see the forums back online again. |
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tuam l33t
Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 765 Location: CGN, Germany
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?
FF and keep up the good work!
Daniel _________________ Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. - Spock
The needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many. - Kirk
I refuse to let arithmetic decide questions like that. - Picard |
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paulj Guru
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 513 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: Forums Migration |
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Thanks gents! Great job. |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Finally: UTF-8 Everything seems to be on its correct place.
Thanks! All the -big- effort is appreciated. |
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tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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tuam wrote: | Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?
FF and keep up the good work!
Daniel |
Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days _________________ Search | Read | Answer | Report | Strip |
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lefou Apprentice
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 199 Location: Germany, Lusatia
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Many thanks for you engagement to provide one of the coolest linux forums available. Everything looks good right now but the feeling is that it even looks better than before.
Keep up the good work. I would like to read your experiences with the migration, too! |
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Drewgrange Guru
Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Posts: 483 Location: Ohio, US
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages? |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Drewgrange wrote: | I apologize if this should be obvious, but what's the main benefit of moving to UTF-8? Is it meant to help with non-english languages? |
Unless your browser can auto-adjust the charsets, using more than one is a pain. In a forum like this, where you might be participating in Spanish, English, German, French, Portuguesse and Italian sections (just an example, I am not that smart ), this is quite a pain in the ass. Not to talk about non-latin alphabets, like Russian or Chinesse.
UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it ).
It is definitely, the way to go on an international, multilingual, forum. |
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padoor Advocate
Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 4185 Location: india
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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currently i see that the font size has become smaller in ie. firefox i have not tried yet.
what are things to check if everything ok.
what are things visibly changed. i did not find any difference so far except it is more difficult to read in internet explorer in windows.
this proved that we / atleast i cannot do without the forum uo and running always when i am working with gentoo.
felt was driving a car without a steering wheel
happy welcome back gentoo forums
worth mention is i lost my X with last upgrade to 1.4 ver server. after lot of thinking re emrging old server 1.3 i found it is needed to emerge all drivers too after server change. now i got back latest x server running nice. _________________ reach out a little bit more to catch it (DON'T BELIEVE the advocate part under my user name) |
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NathanZachary Moderator
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 2605
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that. Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work! _________________ “Truth, like infinity, is to be forever approached but never reached.” --Jean Ayres (1972)
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think4urs11 Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jun 2003 Posts: 6659 Location: above the cloud
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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gentoo_zach wrote: | VERY glad to the have the fora back. I have noticed that it seems to be more responsive now than it used to be, but I don't know how upgrading to MySQL5 would do that. Anyway, thank you so much for the hard work! |
The MySQL5 server is a more powerful, newer machine so that might be one of the reasons. _________________ Nothing is secure / Security is always a trade-off with usability / Do not assume anything / Trust no-one, nothing / Paranoia is your friend / Think for yourself |
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frenkel Veteran
Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1034 Location: .nl
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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tomk wrote: | tuam wrote: | Will there be a documentation of how you converted everything, and what went wrong the first time?
FF and keep up the good work!
Daniel |
Yes, I'll be writing up something about the whole process including the problems we encountered along the way, but not just yet, I'm putting my feet up for a couple of days |
Good work! It would indeed be nice to read how it went and what went wrong, but take your time, you have earned it! |
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Diezel l33t
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 600 Location: Karjaa, Finland
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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i92guboj wrote: |
UTF-8 is the "one charset to rule them all". Besides that, it is the future. . |
That comment makes me want to watch Lord of the rings again. _________________ A bus station is where a bus stops, a train station is where a train stops. On
my desk I have a work station..
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Zagloj Guru
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duby2291 Guru
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 583
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.
Excellent work. Very impressed. |
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runningwithscissors Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 454 Location: the third world
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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duby2291 wrote: | I'm not sure if this is due to the UTF-8 conversion or not, but the forums are --lightning-- fast. Click a link and it opens damn near instant.
Excellent work. Very impressed. | It's got nothing to do with UTF-8. They've just riced the forums server. |
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VinzC Watchman
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 5098 Location: Dark side of the mood
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'm going to congrat you guys for the work. I guess it's been a little stressing in the end given the long downtime . Good work and thank you again.
One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface.
Ah... TinyWare... Always a good laugh!
EDIT:
Tiny --> Micro
Ware --> Soft _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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VinzC Watchman
Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Posts: 5098 Location: Dark side of the mood
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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i92guboj wrote: | It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it ). |
Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People?
_________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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ikshaar Veteran
Joined: 23 Jul 2002 Posts: 1339 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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VinzC wrote: | One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface. |
If it displays fine in one UI and not another, then yes it's probably a bad coding of the UI of Live. _________________ "May God stands between you and harm in all the empty places where you must walk" - Babylon 5 |
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tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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VinzC wrote: | One little thing to notice though: I receive notifications from the forums in French to my hotmail account. The funny thing is accented characters in the subject line are displayed in the mail list pane as if they were plain ASCII, i.e. an accented 'e' --> 'é' appears as a 'é' :rotfl: ... although hotmail pages are encoded in UTF-8! Now, when I open the message the subject line appears with proper UTF-8 characters... :rotflmfao: (Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Freaking Ass Off) I have no idea on whether it's due to the new Live Hotmail interface. |
Works for me in mutt so looks like it's Hotmail's problem. _________________ Search | Read | Answer | Report | Strip |
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VinzC Watchman
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Sure, it has nothing to do with phpBB, it was so much obvious to me that tech people behind the fora *do* know what they're doing... unlinke TinyWare .
Sorry for the troll... Just couldn't resist. _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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Flammie Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Jun 2003 Posts: 633 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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VinzC wrote: | i92guboj wrote: | It aims to support all the characters contained within all alphabets around the Earth (and I bet that there's any freak out there that is working in Klingon support for it ). |
Why only Klingon and not Andorian? Do you, pink faces, have anything against Andorian People? |
I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.
¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay. |
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Timz n00b
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm impatient to read your process notes about it.
Also thank you very much for all the job done and the time you take for doing it. _________________ Gentoo rocks !!! |
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VinzC Watchman
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Flammie wrote: | ...
I suppose Andorian character set is not as well documented. For Klingon there’s¹ at least two normative references and three klingon language books published. Although the request for Klingon was rejected by Unicode committee, it’s now quite stable at private use block.
¹ You can also use apostrophes that are curly with unicode safely now! Yay. |
Do you mean the ones that you've just put in your last two sentences? If so they don't appear curly on my side but I guess that's just because I'm using Arial for my default font? _________________ Gentoo addict: tomorrow I quit, I promise!... Just one more emerge...
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