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chalex20 n00b
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: freetype 2.3.3 - any plans to include it into xeffects? |
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Portage has had freetype 2.3.3 for some time already. Are there any plans to include it into the xeffects overlay? _________________ Regards,
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jorges Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject: Color fringes around font egdes |
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Hi,
I followed this guide and I like the results, but there is something annoying me: color fringes around fonts edges. See example
I've read this thread from beginning to end and it seems people are not having this issue. What could be wrong in my case? My LCD monitor? I tried adjusting gamma, but the effect is still there, quite visible on some cases. I tried also playing with dpi settings, same results. Note I say some cases. Sometimes text is rendered beautifully, others not. The appearance of the effect seems related to the font size. The problem doesn't seem to be tied to any specific app. as I see it on xterms, user interface, firefox, mousepad, etc.
I've been playing with settings and versions for the last two days, and I feel lost. Any hints are appreciated.
My setup: amd64, freetype-2.3.3 (portage, -bindist), cairo-1.4.4 (xeffects, newspr), libXft-2.1.12 (xeffects, newspr), xfce4
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Color fringes around font egdes |
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chalex20 wrote: | Portage has had freetype 2.3.3 for some time already. Are there any plans to include it into the xeffects overlay? |
There's no point in duplicating the same ebuild.
jorges wrote: | The appearance of the effect seems related to the font size. |
Use ~/.fonts.conf to customize the font settings. |
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jorges Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Color fringes around font egdes |
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PaulBredbury wrote: | jorges wrote: | The appearance of the effect seems related to the font size. |
Use ~/.fonts.conf to customize the font settings. |
Hey, it's you again! Since my posts in this thread, I reinstalled everything as per this guide (that's why I post here now), I am also using the .fonts.conf you posted. Do you mean to add something else to it?
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, use a rule like in /etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-fonts-persian.conf to turn off, for large fonts, whatever's causing the undesired effect. E.g.:
Code: | <match target="font">
<test name="size" compare="more_eq"><double>24</double></test>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
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Then close & restart firefox, to see the effect. |
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jorges Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Color fringes around font egdes |
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jorges wrote: | Hi,
I followed this guide and I like the results, but there is something annoying me: color fringes around fonts edges. See example
I've read this thread from beginning to end and it seems people are not having this issue. What could be wrong in my case? My LCD monitor? I tried adjusting gamma, but the effect is still there, quite visible on some cases. I tried also playing with dpi settings, same results. Note I say some cases. Sometimes text is rendered beautifully, others not. The appearance of the effect seems related to the font size. The problem doesn't seem to be tied to any specific app. as I see it on xterms, user interface, firefox, mousepad, etc.
I've been playing with settings and versions for the last two days, and I feel lost. Any hints are appreciated.
My setup: amd64, freetype-2.3.3 (portage, -bindist), cairo-1.4.4 (xeffects, newspr), libXft-2.1.12 (xeffects, newspr), xfce4
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I solved the problem. I had mozilla-firefox-bin installed, which probably wasn't using the right libraries. I did test with mozilla-firefox at a given moment, but for some reason I saw no improvements then (maybe I have to learn when it is better to shutdown the laptop and get some sleep). Thanks to those that tried to help.
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santaclaws Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Deeper Underground
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Hi there..
I do have two problems.
First it concerns opera and xeffects.
Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly. The rest is ok.
Any hint?
Second it concerns the choice of wallpapers with xfce 4.4.1
When I use the Tango iconset everything works properly. The wallpaper switch is fast. But if I use my favorite iconset Dropline cpu load rises up to 100 % and it is nearly impossible to change the wallpaper with the xfce background option.
Any hint?
Here is my xorg.conf
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Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.Org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
InputDevice "USB Mouse" "AlwaysCore"
#No Synaptics touchpad found
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection
Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/util"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/encodings"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/terminus"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts"
FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/arphicfonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/jisx0213"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/shinonome"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/kacst-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/sgi-fonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/unfonts"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-cp1251-misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-isocyr-misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8r-misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xfonts-cronyx-koi8u-misc"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "ddc"
Load "vbe"
Load "GLcore"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "bitmap"
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "record"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbLayout" "de" #de,us
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
#Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle,grp_led:scroll,grp:alt_shift_toggle"
#Option "XkbVariant" "winkeys"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Serial Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/misc/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USB Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons" "5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Protocol" "event"
Option "Device" ""
Option "LeftEdge" "1900"
Option "RightEdge" "5400"
Option "TopEdge" "1900"
Option "BottomEdge" "4000"
Option "FingerLow" "25"
Option "FingerHigh" "30"
Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
Option "MaxTapMove" "220"
Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
Option "MinSpeed" "0.02"
Option "MaxSpeed" "0.10"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.0010"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection
# Auto-generated by mkxf86config
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
HorizSync 30.0 - 60.0
VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0
Option "dpms" "1"
Gamma 1.5 1.6 1.6
Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"
DisplaySize 270 203
Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
#Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
Option "ShowCache"
Option "ShadowFB"
Option "UseFBDev"
Option "Rotate"
Identifier "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by x11-misc/mkxf86config
Driver "i810"
VendorName "Intel"
BoardName "Intel Corporation 82815 CGC "
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
VideoRam 16384
Option "NoAccel" "false"
Option "DRI" "true"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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And here is my ~/.fonts.conf (I tried PaulBredburies version from here https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-553246-highlight-.html)
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Info:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-511382.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XOrg_Font_Configuration
-->
<!-- Reject bitmap fonts in favour of Truetype, Postscript, etc. -->
<selectfont>
<rejectfont>
<pattern>
<patelt name="scalable">
<bool>false</bool>
</patelt>
</pattern>
</rejectfont>
</selectfont>
<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<match name="family" target="pattern">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font -->
<match name="family" target="pattern">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier New</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- hintnone, hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull -->
<!-- Keep autohint off -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintslight</const></edit>
</match>
<!-- Disable hinting for bold fonts -->
<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
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boniek Guru
Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 373
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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santaclaws wrote: | Hi there..
I do have two problems.
First it concerns opera and xeffects.
Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly. The rest is ok.
Any hint?
Suggestions welcome |
Please provide screenshot (it should look like [this] with fonts forced to verdana/bitstream vera sans mono)
BTW If you want support follow guide closely (e.g. use hintfull instead of hintslight). _________________ [HOWTO]New freetype subpixel font rendering for lcd monitors |
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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santaclaws wrote: | Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly.
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<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font --> |
Don't forget that those rules are useless if the replacement fonts aren't installed on your system.
With fonts, one person's ugly is another person's attractive - just as with women (ducks and runs).
Flick through the fonts you have installed, and choose ones that you like. Also check the font configuration in your browser very carefully.
I think a photograph of the screen is the best thing to show - the screen might be messing up perfectly good fonts, if e.g. the DPI setting is bad for the monitor. |
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Pajarico Guru
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 493 Location: Madrid, España.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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boniek: I see there is a higher version on xeffects overlay than portage, should we upgrade? (if so, where can I fetch freetype-2.3.4_p20070414.tar.gz?)
EDIT Nevermind. Just sync'd portage and freetype-2.3.4 is on the tree. I guess 2.3.4 is higher than 2.3.4-p*? _________________ Gentoo: the only software worth paying that is free. |
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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emerge =freetype-2.3.4_p20070414
It is the latest version, and is higher than freetype-2.3.4 |
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Pajarico Guru
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 493 Location: Madrid, España.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, ok. I thought "p" stood for "pre", but I guess it means "patch"? Now I can access the file. _________________ Gentoo: the only software worth paying that is free. |
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santaclaws Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Deeper Underground
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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PaulBredbury wrote: | santaclaws wrote: | Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly.
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<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font --> |
Don't forget that those rules are useless if the replacement fonts aren't installed on your system.
With fonts, one person's ugly is another person's attractive - just as with women (ducks and runs).
Flick through the fonts you have installed, and choose ones that you like. Also check the font configuration in your browser very carefully.
I think a photograph of the screen is the best thing to show - the screen might be messing up perfectly good fonts, if e.g. the DPI setting is bad for the monitor. |
Here is a screenshot of my desktop:
http://senduit.com/fbe322 _________________ Software is like sex. It is better when ist is free. |
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santaclaws Apprentice
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Deeper Underground
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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boniek wrote: | santaclaws wrote: | Hi there..
I do have two problems.
First it concerns opera and xeffects.
Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly. The rest is ok.
Any hint?
Suggestions welcome |
Please provide screenshot (it should look like [this] with fonts forced to verdana/bitstream vera sans mono)
BTW If you want support follow guide closely (e.g. use hintfull instead of hintslight). |
I followed the guide closely.
http://wiki.gentoo-xeffects.org/Font_Rendering
And my problem only appears with opera. I tried out several versions of that browser and reinstalled it - but that gave me nothing.
Firefox or seamonkey work perfectly. It is a really strange effect. _________________ Software is like sex. It is better when ist is free. |
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santaclaws Apprentice
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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PaulBredbury wrote: | santaclaws wrote: | Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly.
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<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font --> |
Don't forget that those rules are useless if the replacement fonts aren't installed on your system.
With fonts, one person's ugly is another person's attractive - just as with women (ducks and runs).
Flick through the fonts you have installed, and choose ones that you like. Also check the font configuration in your browser very carefully.
I think a photograph of the screen is the best thing to show - the screen might be messing up perfectly good fonts, if e.g. the DPI setting is bad for the monitor. |
I do have Courier and CourierNew installed.
A screenshot of my desktop is to be found above.
Quote: | With fonts, one person's ugly is another person's attractive - just as with women (ducks and runs). |
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bladus Apprentice
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 233
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, i just installed everything and i'm amazed. Everything is so much more readable and easier on my eyes.
I didn't know how crappy my fonts looked before ... Thank you! |
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MartyMcFly n00b
Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Yes, my fonts look pretty good now. But I still have a problem, there's like a tiny red halo sometimes, and maybe a little bit of yellow too (in sectors where black touches white... like white backgrounds with black letters)... do you know why could this be? I have a 19" LCD, the latest version of cairo, libXft and freetype, I followed the guide to the letter.
Thanks! |
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PaulBredbury Watchman
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:14 am Post subject: |
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MartyMcFly wrote: | tiny red halo sometimes, and maybe a little bit of yellow too |
Try changing the "subpixel order" (rgb, etc.).
Otherwise, switch from subpixel smoothing to greyscale. |
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boniek Guru
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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PaulBredbury wrote: |
Otherwise, switch from subpixel smoothing to greyscale. |
You are effectively disabling newspr this way
Like Paul said, try to change subpixel order to something else. Please post a screen shot. _________________ [HOWTO]New freetype subpixel font rendering for lcd monitors |
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|Quantum| Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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What does the overlay actually do ? All default versions in portage are higher.
Also I don't see this "newspr"-flag, even when I unmask all packages and use
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -pv cairo
I watched a friend's laptop with Ubuntu. The fonts are small and gorgeous. My Gentoo-box has much bigger fonts and look ugly, even after I followed every possible font-howto.
Also I still have a kind of colored "fuzzyness" around the characters. Changing subpixel hinting types doesn't change anything or for worse. |
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hornett Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 84
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I followed this guide before and it worked nicely, but I tried it on a fresh system, and it didn't make any difference.
As above, the newspr flag didn't seem to get applied during the build... |
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vonr Guru
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 300
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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FYI, the cairo patch does not apply against the newest cairo version (1.4.8).
After some looking around, I found out that the guys from PLD Linux are actively maintaining the patches. You can find the cairo patch here. It applies fine against 1.4.8. |
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no_point n00b
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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boniek wrote: | santaclaws wrote: | Hi there..
I do have two problems.
First it concerns opera and xeffects.
Everything that is posted with the 'code' feature in this forum - I mean the green letters - is displayed really really ugly. The rest is ok.
Any hint?
Suggestions welcome |
Please provide screenshot (it should look like [this] with fonts forced to verdana/bitstream vera sans mono)
BTW If you want support follow guide closely (e.g. use hintfull instead of hintslight). |
Hello, I have the same problem with Opera:
Code: | This font is not antialiased and looks ugly. |
Could you tell me how did you force this font on your screenshot. I tried messing around with the settings in Tools->Preferences->Web Pages and Advanced->Fonts, but nothing seems to have effect.
EDIT: Nevermind. Added:
Code: | <match target="pattern" name="family">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
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to my /etc/fonts/local.conf. |
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boniek Guru
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vonr Guru
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 300
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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They seem to be fixed in the ebuild though: see this bug. Anyway, I don't use OpenOffice, so I can't reproduce anything anyway. |
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