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karan Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:09 pm Post subject: gentoo problem, URGENT |
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hello, my name is karan
I downloaded and installed gentoo, emerge rysnc, bootstrapped, and pretty much did the whole shabang, I couldn't get grub to work, so i did a emerge lilo, and have started to use that. The problem now is, im still booting from the kernel that was loaded with the install cd, im rather new at linux ( i've used it for about 6 months, im 13 years of age ) Im really into it, but I can NEVER really compile a successful kernel of mine, perhaps someone could taech me some stuff about it
I really want to get gentoo working b4 sunday ( when my vacation finishes ) and was wondering if there is a stock kernel, where i don't have to do anything except type make dep ; make ; make modules etc etc
Any help would be greatly appreciated |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you just try it again? If you fail, post your error(s) and we can probably help. _________________ I don't believe in witty sigs. |
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BonezTheGoon Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 1408 Location: Albuquerque, NM -- birthplace of Microsoft and Gentoo
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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During my first install of Gentoo I found that any time I had an unexpected situation or some kind of error that if I went back and read the installation guide more carefully I had either missed a step or had a typing error of some kind. I'd recommend trying again and paying specific attention to being quite sure you have followed the installation guide explicitly. My first go with Gentoo I had little understanding of what the commands I was typing even did, I am confident that you are able to get it going with some very careful reading and a few tries!!!
Good luck, congratulations on finding the best Linux distribution to date!!
Regards,
BonezTheGoon _________________
pjp wrote: | The greater evil is voting for the "lesser evil." |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: gentoo problem, URGENT |
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karan wrote: | Any help would be greatly appreciated |
Kernel compiling is a big, nasty necessity of linux. It's like eating your vegetables -- you just have to pinch your nose and do it. The more you do it, the better you'll become at it until you get to a point where compiling a kernel is second nature.
You really should take some time to read the Kernel HOWTO. It will actually teach you how to build a kernel, what the difference between modules vs. compiled in is, etc., etc.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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karan Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 12:49 am Post subject: thnx |
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I've succesfully compiled the kernel once b4, but I can't boot into it, its screws up at the tmpfs place, I don't know hwat this is, or how to get around this =(
Also, I was wondering if you could compile *everything* ( except for the wierd things) as a module, would that work? would that make my kernel slow? I also don't understand when people say, this program is alot more "powerful" than that. Are they trying to say that this program can beat up this program or something along those lines?
Pardon me for my incompetence, i don't particulary understand computer terminology. I am VERY much interested in linux, its proven itself to me as a much better OS than windows. I sooooo badly want to get this working so I don't have to go through the install cd to play around with my linux distro. |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 1:05 am Post subject: Re: thnx |
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karan wrote: | I've succesfully compiled the kernel once b4, but I can't boot into it, its screws up at the tmpfs place, I don't know hwat this is, or how to get around this =( |
As stated in the Install Guide:
Quote: | You'll also need to enable the "Virtual Memory Filesystem". |
karan wrote: | Also, I was wondering if you could compile *everything* ( except for the wierd things) as a module, would that work? |
No. If the root filesystem is a module residing on the root filesystem, the kernel won't be able to open it up to find the module. If the IDE controller is a module, it won't be able to get to the disk to get the IDE module. And so on. _________________ I don't believe in witty sigs. |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 11:36 am Post subject: Re: thnx |
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karan wrote: | I sooooo badly want to get this working so I don't have to go through the install cd to play around with my linux distro. |
If you want to get this working, then take the time to read and understand the documentation. I can't stress this enough. Yes, reading docomentation sucks. However, it will get you where you want to go.
There is no quick and easy way to get this all magically working. If you happen to get lucky and get one kernel config that works properly, you'll invariably have to revisit this issue at a later date.
Again, take the time to read the documentation.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20113
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: thnx |
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klieber wrote: | Again, take the time to read the documentation. | And take notes. You will be able to refer to your notes more easily than all of the docs you read. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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klieber Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 3657 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: thnx |
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kanuslupus wrote: | klieber wrote: | Again, take the time to read the documentation. | And take notes. You will be able to refer to your notes more easily than all of the docs you read. |
Excellent point -- I generally print out a doc that I'm reading and annotate it as I go along for things that I know I'll run into or that pertain to my specific machine.
--kurt _________________ The problem with political jokes is that they get elected |
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Rain Designs Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 130 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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make sure you read EVERY WORD in the x86 doc. It took me about 10 times of formatting to get gentoo to work The reason why I couldn't get grub workin is because I didnt' keep track of the names of my partitions. (ie: swap=/dev/hda2, etc) To make things easy on you, make a boot partition first, then make a swap partition and last make a root partition, do it IN THAT ORDER. It will really help the confusing.
Good luck
-Rain
once gentoo runs, it KICKS! _________________ ^M = Death by notepad
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mverrilli n00b
Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 40 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:37 pm Post subject: My first couple attempts |
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This is kinda funny, but my first couple attempts at installing gentoo were ruined by me not paying attention with grub. :p
I did the following (do NOT do this, it's a Bad Thing):
Code: | grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0,0) |
Of course, it should have been setup (hd0)... so I prompty hosed my partition. It took me redoing my installation twice before I figured out what I was doing wrong!
Moral of the story: Read the instructions VERY carefully, it's easy to screw up! |
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karan Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:43 pm Post subject: many thanks |
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Many thanks to those who helped me out. I have successfully made a working kernel, and everything works fine. The one thing that is weird is that I keep getting errors in runscript.sh or something. Also, I can't open any x-apps as the user karan. I read the documentation very carefully, took notes etc . I came across this problem and it said to do a chmod 1777 /tmp. So I did, but still no success.
Thank you in advance. |
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Naan Yaar Bodhisattva
Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: My first couple attempts |
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I almost always install grub on a floppy rather than messing with it on the hard drive's MBR. This way the most I will lose is a floppy
Also, use the TAB completion facility in grub. It is really useful in ensuring that you are doing things correctly.
mverrilli wrote: | ...
Code: | grub> root (hd0,0)
grub> setup (hd0,0) | ... |
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fghellar Bodhisattva
Joined: 10 Apr 2002 Posts: 856 Location: Porto Alegre, BR
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BonezTheGoon Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 1408 Location: Albuquerque, NM -- birthplace of Microsoft and Gentoo
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats on getting your kernel compiled!!!! Now I can tell all my friends at work that are afraid of linux and compiling a kernel that a 13-year-old did it!!! Let's see how they react to that one, eh? Good work!!! Keep on plugging away at it, sooner than later you will have a really nice Gentoo system that you can truly pride yourself on!! Pride of ownership is a very warm fuzzy feeling!
Regards,
BonezTheGoon _________________
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