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PaulBredbury
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Here's my ~/.fonts.conf, which displays bold well:
| Code: | <?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Info at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts -->
<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<match target="pattern" name="family">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font -->
<match target="pattern" name="family">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier New</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- hintnone, hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
<const>hintslight</const>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Disable hinting for bold fonts -->
<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more">
<const>medium</const>
</test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintnone</const></edit>
</match>
<!-- Reject bitmap fonts in favour of Truetype, Postscript, etc. -->
<selectfont>
<rejectfont>
<pattern>
<patelt name="scalable">
<bool>false</bool>
</patelt>
</pattern>
</rejectfont>
</selectfont>
</fontconfig> |
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anli
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| boniek wrote: | | .. Some font families seem to not play well with newspr... |
Can you list few fonts (mono and prop, unicoded) known to play well? 
Thanks in advance! |
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na641
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Could you tell me what font you use for your window titles (in the console screenshots)? |
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boniek
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| na641 wrote: | | Could you tell me what font you use for your window titles (in the console screenshots)? |
It's good, old Sans Bold 8pt.
| anli wrote: | Can you list few fonts (mono and prop, unicoded) known to play well?
Thanks in advance! |
I didn't try a lot of fonts really. Just pick what looks best for you. Bitstream and Sans family are my personal favorites.
Look [here] for some samples.
| PaulBredbury wrote: | | Here's my ~/.fonts.conf, which displays bold well: |
More of a workaround than a solution. It disables hinting (and newspr as well) for bold fonts. Do they look better? Thats highly subjective (as everything else here) 
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m.s.w
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have to ask: where did you get "Bitstream Vera Roman" and other types from?
I have installed ttf-bitstream-vera ebuild, but there is no such a font....
m.s.w
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boniek
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| m.s.w wrote: | I have to ask: where did you get "Bitstream Vera Roman" and other types from?
I have installed ttf-bitstream-vera ebuild, but there is no such a font....
m.s.w |
It's Bitstream Vera Sans Roman from media-fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera (with X useflag turned on).
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vinboy
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IvanMajhen
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Boniek, is your interface font color black, or did you changed it to some lighter black?
If my fonts are for example #343434 they look much better. I'm using corefonts. Bitstream fonts doesn't look right for me, specialy in web. |
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na641
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| Hey Boniek, just thought you should know there is a new version of cairo in portage, version 1.3.16 which is greater than the 1.3.14 version in the overlay. |
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devsk
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| one very basic question: is the overlay still required to enjoy the new font rendering on LCDs? Are there some patches in overlay which are not in freetype-2.3.1 and cairo-1.3.16 in portage, and which affect the look of fonts. |
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roderick
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Was updated (by yours truly) about 7 hours ago 
Re-sync your xeffects overlay to get the update to Cairo 1.3.16.
Cheers,
Rod.
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boniek
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| na641 wrote: | | Hey Boniek, just thought you should know there is a new version of cairo in portage, version 1.3.16 which is greater than the 1.3.14 version in the overlay. |
It's at 1.3.16 thanks to roderick
| devsk wrote: | | one very basic question: is the overlay still required to enjoy the new font rendering on LCDs? Are there some patches in overlay which are not in freetype-2.3.1 and cairo-1.3.16 in portage, and which affect the look of fonts. |
You still need overlay for cairo and libXft as they need to be patched for all this to work.
| IvanMajhen wrote: | Boniek, is your interface font color black, or did you changed it to some lighter black?
If my fonts are for example #343434 they look much better. I'm using corefonts. Bitstream fonts doesn't look right for me, specialy in web. |
That's how fonts look under Gnome for me (freetype applies a bit of gamma correction thats why they are not pitch black - I like this effect very much).
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na641
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| roderick wrote: | Was updated (by yours truly) about 7 hours ago
Re-sync your xeffects overlay to get the update to Cairo 1.3.16.
Cheers,
Rod. |
Thanks once again for the update. |
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roderick
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| na641 wrote: | | Thanks once again for the update. |
No problem.
I'm an update junkie, so I usually know when things need to be fixed pretty quickly.
-Rod
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IvanMajhen
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| boniek wrote: |
| IvanMajhen wrote: | Boniek, is your interface font color black, or did you changed it to some lighter black?
If my fonts are for example #343434 they look much better. I'm using corefonts. Bitstream fonts doesn't look right for me, specialy in web. |
That's how fonts look under Gnome for me (freetype applies a bit of gamma correction thats why they are not pitch black - I like this effect very much). |
Hm... Don't understand. My fonts in yahoo look exactly like yours. But interface fonts are much blacker. If you didn't change interface color font, where this freetype gamma correction can be setup? |
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boniek
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IvanMajhen
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I'm using KDE with QTcurve.
Here is screenshot how yahoo page looks: http://shrani.si/files/snapshot2uyzy.png.
It looks like yours, but yahoo looks good, because they don't use straight black fonts.
But for example, www.osnews.com fonts are very black: http://shrani.si/files/snapshot3uz25.png.
It would be nice if they looked like fonts in your ui.
Could you post screenshot of osnews.com, i wanna see if your fonts are black like mine, or do they look like from your ui.
I can get my ui to look like yours if i change font color (in gtk and qt apps with qtcurve).
But this doesn't apply to fonts colors in web. So if you are using that freetype gamma correction this should be
system wide, right? And where and how to change it?
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m.s.w
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Maybe it's OT, or irrelevant, but anyone knows how to make FF fully support nice fonts? For example here : http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/03/05/red_exadel/
I had no problems, util last update of cairo (previously I had cairo from xeffects, now regular from portage).
Regards,
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IvanMajhen
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I think you have different font color in gnome. UI fonts are not black.
Problems with black (not bold, but black) font is that they are not smooth like other fonts.
I changed gamma in kde, by value when they become smooth.
They had some weird colors around it, and they look ok now. |
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na641
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| IvanMajhen wrote: | I think you have different font color in gnome. UI fonts are not black.
Problems with black (not bold, but black) font is that they are not smooth like other fonts.
I changed gamma in kde, by value when they become smooth.
They had some weird colors around it, and they look ok now. |
Could you please post before and after shots to show the differences you speak of? Also, could you please give us your new optimal gamma settings? I think we would all appreciate this.
Oh well, I'm a gnome user anyway, so i'm not sure how simple it would be to change the gamma settings, if its possible at all through the gnome ui. |
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I stumbled in this thread, cause I never was satisfied with the fonts on my gnome desktop. Especially freetype 2.3.1 made things even worse. So I tried your docs and I must say my fonts never looked so pretty. Many thanks for this great work!
The only thing I'm wondering is, that I really notice no difference when using "Grayscale" or "Subpixel" smoothing. So I am not using your "newspr" feature, when I set "Greyscale" smoothing - is this correct? Where are the differences, what should I use?
I am running gnome-desktop on gentoo. Setup is done as your docs suggest.
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IvanMajhen
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| na641 wrote: | | IvanMajhen wrote: | I think you have different font color in gnome. UI fonts are not black.
Problems with black (not bold, but black) font is that they are not smooth like other fonts.
I changed gamma in kde, by value when they become smooth.
They had some weird colors around it, and they look ok now. |
Could you please post before and after shots to show the differences you speak of? Also, could you please give us your new optimal gamma settings? I think we would all appreciate this.
Oh well, I'm a gnome user anyway, so i'm not sure how simple it would be to change the gamma settings, if its possible at all through the gnome ui. |
Screenshot doesn't take changed gamma setting. My old screenshots are now looking good with changed gamma. This only changes monitor settings. With black fonts i had some red,green... pixels around them. They are smooth now. Gamma is 1.40. I think that this is problem with my lcd, since all movies now looks brighter (before i had to change brightness in kmplayer) |
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boniek
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| roderick wrote: | Ok,
Anyone here have ghostscript/cups support with media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std installed?
I tried to rebuild my font cache (fc-cache) and this package causes fc-cache to hang and drive the CPU though the roof. I unmerged it and fc-cache worked fine.
The problem is it appears to be a dep of any of the ghostscript builds in portage.
If I leave it installed, I cannot run kdm as kdm_greet stalls (looks like it wants to rebuild the font cache at some point) and cpu goes to 100%.
Any ideas on why this particular font package is not liking fontconfig/freetype?
I had everything working fine until upgrade to new freetype/cairo/libxft, so I assume it's related...
Any help would be appreciated as this is driving me mad. |
Seems that it is fixed in FreeType 2.3.2 (WFM at least).
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