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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try the latest mm-sources kernel - see my tread in Portage and Programming
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive really dumb question, but did you (azote) just emerge the latest kernel or ... downloaded it and installed it?

the other thing is, someone mentioned that the 2.4 vanilla kernels that are on the cd will prevent bad overheating of cpu?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my kernel 2.5 is working great!!

every thing that I had to twike to make it work on the 2.4 in this one every thing work !!!!!

my frames per second have gone to ~3000 !! with out to do anything..

my wireless, sound and wireless work all at the same time! :)

just give it a try !! is as much statable as the 2.4 gentoo !

at least for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2003 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endgamer wrote:
forgive really dumb question, but did you (azote) just emerge the latest kernel or ... downloaded it and installed it?

the other thing is, someone mentioned that the 2.4 vanilla kernels that are on the cd will prevent bad overheating of cpu?


yes I emerged! :)

you will need to :
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emerge development-sources
emerge module-init-tools

and just fix the link to your linux source to the new kernel and just do the usual
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is one way to fix it. The other is to use the most recent ACPI patch on the Vanilla sources. That worked for me. I had trouble with the 2.5.65 development kernel, but I have all the features that I need working with the vanilla kernel wireless, sound, video, etc. I'll have to check the code that changed, but I still think that it was something to do with the System Control Interrupts.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azote, I have a satellite 5000 laptop and I'm trying to make it work with 2.5.65-mm4, but I'm having all sorts of problems. At first I was not able to make to mouse working and now (after tweaking menuconfig) and can't even boot up. So if it's possible, could you send me your .config file and I will compare it with mine to see where I goofed :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I finally tried something else. I moved .config file to .config.saved and then I did make menuconfig. It restored all the default values! I then configured the USB support and my mice are working!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DogbertTheRuler wrote:
Azote, I have a satellite 5000 laptop and I'm trying to make it work with 2.5.65-mm4, but I'm having all sorts of problems. At first I was not able to make to mouse working and now (after tweaking menuconfig) and can't even boot up. So if it's possible, could you send me your .config file and I will compare it with mine to see where I goofed :oops:

Thanks!

I have a Satellite 5205 and I had a lot of trouble with 2.5.65-m4. It didnt detect my wireless build in card... so I down graded to the regular development-sources-2.5.65
now every thing works nice..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Great! Reply with quote

Hi All,
my results...
using kernel-2.5.66 and xfree 4.3 everything is going fine!

No high load, acpi support (thermal, fan, etc etc ...) ALSA, nvidia...

now my "little" problem is solved... I can start using gentoo!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed this issue and thought that I must have done something wrong, so installed slackware, and mandrake as well just to test all the options and the same problem occurs (on a Toshib 5105-S501). The thing I have noticed is that if I use the vanilla source and compile the acpi support already in the kernel the problem does not occur. Does anyone know how different is that support from the patch? Since I am a newbie I am a bit reluctant to try out the 2.5.66.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same issue on my HP xf328 laptop with ACPI enabled and a WLAN card; system is at 95% all the time, nothing shows up in top.

So, I'm glad to have found this thread, I'll be trying those newer kernel sources and I'll be testing it out.

Also, the only time my fan turns on is when a user process takes 100% CPU or something busy. System is at 100% all the time (as reported by top and other monitors) but the fan doesn't come on. CPU is pretty hot.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 5:48 pm    Post subject: acpi + system load Reply with quote

I've had the same problem (always 100% load) on my Toshiba Satellite 1410-604, but now its running fine, with acpi enabled on the "gs-sources" kernel. (2.4.21_pre7). The 100% load is gone, and the toshiba acpi stuff (lcd brightness ect.) works fine. The only problem I had with this kernel is that the OSS intel8x0 module wouldn't compile, but Alsa works just fine (just enable sound support in the kernel or Alsa won't work either).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I upgraded to the mm sources (a 2.5.x kernel) and the acpi 100% load problem is gone, as others have also reported.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update for people installing more current.
The problem is still there with gentoo-sources-r5 so go with the mm-sources.

I use a 5100-501 and basically have the same problem as everyone else.
mm-sources worked although I screwed up the alsa thingy in the kernel but that's only my fault (as usual).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there !

I Just came across this thread. I own a Toshiba Satellite 2410-404 and had that ACPI problem too with 2.4.20 - after all it seems to be an ACPI issue because it works well with the 2.5 ACPI backport. I use gs-sources because it has the ACPI-patch applied as well as most of the other gentoo-patches and I don't want to switch to 2.5 .
However I'm curious if it has been fixed in 2.4.21 vanilla...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 2.4.21 fixes some ACPI stuff.

maybe it could help ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2003 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run a Toshiba Satellite 5100-503 and can confirm that the problem exists on this model to :cry:

Another shity thing I got problems with is FN+F5(screenswitch). toshutils doesnt help. Seems this is software controlled in Windows. The keys doesnt react in Linux. (Added support for Toshiba laptop in kernel.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what's the deal with 2.4.21 with the acpi-patches? is there still the 100%-system-load-bug? i think the bug was up to version 2.4.21-pre4...

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "bug" is definitly still there in gentoo-sources-r5. I don't know what pathc set is used there for ACPI but its still there anyway.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.4.21 + ACPI-Patch fixes this issue, I think. As I wrote before, gs-sources work fine for me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: Yay for Toshibas? Reply with quote

Hey everyone. I'm a new forum member and new Gentoo user as of last week. :D

I've got a Toshiba Satellite 2805-S503 with this exact same issue when I use the gentoo-sources kernel. I was wondering why the fan was always laboring so much since switching from Windows XP and why the overall system responsiveness was strangely hesitant. top doesn't show you the problem of course, which is what led to me look here.

The discussion here seems to present a lot of good avenues to explore as far as a fix. :)

Last night, I emerged the pfeifer-sources and booted on them just to see, and for the first time, the fan slows down and finally turns off while the system is idle and /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature reports something less than 85C (66C actually, which is far better when it's actually placed on my lap :P).

I gotta redo it so my NETGEAR MA401 and the nVidia GeForce2Go work properly, but it looks very promising. I'll be sure to let everyone know here. And perhaps I'll try the development-sources too, just to compare. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to inform ya all that vanilla-kernel-2.4.21 made magic on my Toshiba 5100-503. ACPI works like it should now.

Thanx Linuz =)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

don't know if my problem has anything to do with yours, but...
my fan won't start :(
Don't have a Toshiba, it's a lifetec..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all those who have the nasty ACPI problem ( your system constantly running near 100% ), there is a quick fix for this. I have been running various versions of Linux on my Toshiba 5005 S507 for some time now, and I finally figured out how to fix this. :) Your alternatives are to build one of the development kernels or pick out one of the more fancy versions, but I'm happy with the gentoo-sources myself.

Go into the kernel source directory; we'll start from there. If you have an older kernel and need to apply ACPI patches, please do so now. For 2.4.21-rc5, ignore what I just said. Now, you need to edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/acpi/events/evrgnini.c. Down around line 293, you'll see the line:
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acpi_os_derive_pci_id (node, region_obj->region.node, &pci_id);

Just comment it out like so:
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/*  acpi_os_derive_pci_id (node, region_obj->region.node, &pci_id); */

Recompile the kernel and you're set!

Again, you can use an alternative kernel. Some of them work, so of them don't. The ones that do already have this 'patch' applied :) ACPI4Linux has already been notified about this fix, though they said they are actually trying to rework this part of the processor feature.
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