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discomfitor l33t
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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IT'S BACK!
That's right. The thread that everyone knows and loves is back, this time with a vengeance. Okay, maybe it's got more of a mean streak, not a vengeance. Fine, it's just a little bit irritated. But you'd better not DON'T POKE AT IT, YOU FOOL!
Anyway. It's been a while since I updated this (I know I said I'd update it a year ago, and I still intend to), and there are more tools than ever to promote ricery. Let's get some ideas going here again. _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
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Corona688 Veteran
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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fearofcorners wrote: | I cringe whenever I hear "ricer". It is a racist term directed at if not japanese people at least japanese-made cars. | Maybye that's the linguistic origin, but I certainly didn't know that. The term's taken on a life of it's own. _________________ Petition for Better 64-bit ATI Drivers - Sign Here
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timeBandit Bodhisattva
Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 2719 Location: here, there or in transit
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:28 am Post subject: |
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nightmorph wrote: | CFLAGS="... -minclude-cpu-smoke ..." |
ROFL ... everyone knows electronics don't work after you let the Special Smoke out, so if you can pack in MORE smoke...!
I read about half the thread--did anyone ever suggest hard drive ricing, or is it all just code? Code: | hdparm -n1 -p9 -D0 -a512 -m128 -u1 -ono-redline /dev/hdz |
-n1 - ignore write errors, I save all files twice anyway
-p9 - use PIO mode 9 (of six...), it must be faster, right?
-D0 - don't waste my time replacing bad sectors with spares
-a512 - read ahead .... read WAY ahead
-m128 - do multi-sector I/O in nice big chunks!
-u1 - ... and while you're at it, don't keep other interrupts waiting
-ono-redline - let drive spin up to its "natural" top speed, not the arbitrary limit (5400rpm, 7200rpm, ...) set by warranty-conscious manufacturers
And of course don't forget to add ide0=autotune ide1=autotune idebus=66 to the kernel command line! _________________ Plants are pithy, brooks tend to babble--I'm content to lie between them.
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: |
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you know one of these days i'm going to build a gentoo system with all this.
I cant believe that it's been 18 months since i contributed to the first page and i haven't tried anything yet _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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Corona688 Veteran
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 1204
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Matteo Azzali Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 1133
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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*Plin Plon*
Just a little note about stability I'm not sure anyone had pointed out before:
the more you rice your system, the more you're on your own when you (and only you) get a bug.
Testers/maintainers are not supposed to test any "rice combination", and that would be a so huge load
of work we would need 10 times the actual number of maintainers/testers. So when a really severe bug
(DE not starting, Xorg not starting, etc.etc.) hits your system, if you know you riced your system
in every bit, please don't immediately start a bugreport (but if someone else starts one, you may confirm
that).
As you can see also in the forum, general solution for these kinds of issue is 99% in config files or in
messed cflags, or similar kinds of issues. So starting a report for something we can't replicate and
the 99% of users will never confirm you'll just waste precious developing/maintaining time.
Being on a "common-like" system means instead your reports will almost always be confirmed in no time
(catching maintainers attention), and probably replicated with ease (granting a faster fix). _________________ Every day a new distro comes to birth. Every day a distro "eats" another.
If you're born distro, no matter what, start to run.
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Chaosite Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 540 Location: Right over here.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Corona688 wrote: | fearofcorners wrote: | I cringe whenever I hear "ricer". It is a racist term directed at if not japanese people at least japanese-made cars. | Maybye that's the linguistic origin, but I certainly didn't know that. The term's taken on a life of it's own. |
"Ricer" did originate from Japanese cars. It refers to a person buying a (usually Japanese) car, making no modifications to the engine or any internal part of the car, but adding a body kit, stickers, and neon lights. Because it makes the car "look faster". It is slightly racist, but its not directed towards Japanese people or Japanese cars, but the people who do such things to their cars. |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Chaosite wrote: | Corona688 wrote: | fearofcorners wrote: | I cringe whenever I hear "ricer". It is a racist term directed at if not japanese people at least japanese-made cars. | Maybye that's the linguistic origin, but I certainly didn't know that. The term's taken on a life of it's own. |
"Ricer" did originate from Japanese cars. It refers to a person buying a (usually Japanese) car, making no modifications to the engine or any internal part of the car, but adding a body kit, stickers, and neon lights. Because it makes the car "look faster". It is slightly racist, but its not directed towards Japanese people or Japanese cars, but the people who do such things to their cars. | It originated from Japanese people buying and doing that to their cars because ricer comes from "rice-eater". Apart from that you got everything else right _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Let's not forget the UBER optimized kernel with at least 1000+ patches:
Code: | emerge 2.6.19-rc6-mm4-ck1-rt1 |
The key to creating this patch set is to take the time to Google kernel patches for at least a day, and download every single one. Make sure to mix in a bunch of low latency patches with some patches that add overhead. Use quilt to make them all work together, ya know, sometimes you forget to merge the .rej, but that's no big deal, because the secret is all in the marketing. Take any given little known patch and announce it as a new super optimizing feature!
Topic: 2.6.19-rc6-mm4-ck1-rt1: Da Freakin' Awesome Ninja Race Superstar! | NOW WITH THE UBER-CACHE-PATCH!
Moments later the comments on the patch will start arriving...
Ricer1: "OMG, this kernel is faster than any kernel that I have ever used."
(What's funny about Ricer1, is that he says that every release.)
Dev1: "This is just completely nuttery."
(What Dev1 doesn't release is ricers thrive off of nuttery. Patch set popularity multiplies.)
Ricer2: "It broke."
(Ricer2 pastes 3 page error message.)
Ricer3: "NO IT DIDN'T, USER ERROR! WORKS GREAT HERE! WHEN WE GET 2.6.20-rc1-mm1-ck0-rt4? I HEARD THAT THE DEVS WERE THINKING ABOUT IT."
Ricer4: "Does not compile with GCC 4.3.10312008 or Glibc 2.6.9-beta12" _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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wah Guru
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 453 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I just read all 8 pages of this and cried my eyes out with laughter...my co-workers came by to see what the fuss was about...but they're not l33t ricers like this, no it made so sense to them.
I've seen many references to -omg, but none to -omfg-pwned-n00b or -fastandfurious-tokyodrift - why the exclude? I'm using this on 2.8.24-l33tgentoo-r29.5 with most of the patches and options mentioned above, but I guess you need the secret SSH key to the Russian Hacker's Lair to utilize this.
@Vipernicus,
Don't forget Ricer5's response:
RICER5 - bah gentoo, not l33t enough, use debian 5.0-secret edition, fsck you all!
<RICER5 then proceeds to start a new thread in Gentoo Chat called "Why I'm Leaving Gentoo">
@cokehabit,
Still like the avatar, but the old one was the bomb!
Classic material folks - happy ricing!
Cheers,
W. _________________ - AMD64 3000+, MSI K8N-SLI, Nvidia Geforce 6600 PCIE, 2GB OCZ Dual-Channel PC3200,2x160GB SATA
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Hard drive ricing made the cut, and so did a few other things that I'm working with. Probably another update soon. _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
Imperfection indicates a lack of effort. |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Howto: Gentoo Ricing 183% |
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Darckness wrote: | Hard Drive Ricing:
Another little-known form of ricing is that of the hard drive. As many of you know, a hard drive is a mystical device that was created by Odin to aid mortals in the fight against Chaos. What you probably don't know is that there are tools you can use to make your hard drive run 80%-120% faster with no downside!
What you'll need is a program called hdparm which you can emerge because it's in portage. Once it's installed, edit this line in the file /etc/conf.d/hdparm:
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Code: | all_args="-d2 -X99 -m1024 --speedread" |
This does the following:
-d2 - turns on ultradma
-X99 - sudma10 mode, normally hidden away unless you buy a really expensive hard drive
-m1024 - moves blocks in very large chunks to speed up drive functions
--speedread - causes the drive to only read the middle of the data because it knows what the edges say anyway
Once you enable these settings, you'll probably feel like a rocket has been strapped to your computer! |
You forgot --no-safety. We true ricers know that hard drives have a safety mechanism that keeps drives from spinning too fast... _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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Enverex Guru
Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 501 Location: Worcester, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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red-wolf76 wrote: | SirYes wrote: | ... Just remember to add USE="pic" ... | Just to be sure, I'm not missing out on some k3w1 basmati here: "pic" does stand for "prelinking insane combinations", right? |
In peoples defense, the Gentoo Prelink guide (Gentoo.org, not Wiki) TOLD you to put pic in your USE flags. |
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Dralnu Veteran
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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In defense of stability-
LDFLAGS are a great opt, and they don't seem to blunder your system like alot of the other --fomg-FASTER settings. _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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96140 Retired Dev
Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 1324
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Dralnu wrote: | LDFLAGS are a great opt, and they don't seem to blunder your system like alot of the other --fomg-FASTER settings. |
Yeah, right. |
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Dralnu Veteran
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:03 am Post subject: |
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nightmorph wrote: | Dralnu wrote: | LDFLAGS are a great opt, and they don't seem to blunder your system like alot of the other --fomg-FASTER settings. |
Yeah, right. | I say this from personal experiance. With Qt compiled with my LDFLAGS (LDFlAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--sort-common"), along with the deletion of the cache for Opera, I got its start time down to ~1 second, as opposed to the traditional ~9 seconds.
My system hasn't royally been mucked up with it, either (I keep them defined under LDFLAGS, I don't mess with them in my CLFAGS settings).
But again, this is my experiance. I don't go overboard with my CLFAGS (your basic setup w/ -fomit-frame-pointer), and I don't try to fsck with my hard drive (yet. No spares atm, lol). _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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discomfitor l33t
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 927 Location: None
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Please keep in mind that I'm directing this at the sane people out there. For others, there is simply no hope. _________________ There is no substitute for experience.
Imperfection indicates a lack of effort. |
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timeBandit Bodhisattva
Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 2719 Location: here, there or in transit
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:19 am Post subject: |
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nightmorph wrote: | Dralnu wrote: | LDFLAGS are a great opt, and they don't seem to blunder your system like alot of the other --fomg-FASTER settings. |
Yeah, right. |
That bug never fails to crack me up, and usually makes me self-consciously check my CFLAGS (though they've not changed in years). _________________ Plants are pithy, brooks tend to babble--I'm content to lie between them.
Super-short f.g.o checklist: Search first, strip comments, mark solved, help others. |
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Dralnu Veteran
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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timeBandit wrote: | nightmorph wrote: | Dralnu wrote: | LDFLAGS are a great opt, and they don't seem to blunder your system like alot of the other --fomg-FASTER settings. |
Yeah, right. |
That bug never fails to crack me up, and usually makes me self-consciously check my CFLAGS (though they've not changed in years). | That bug is pretty much legendary. The all caps response I think is key to its effects on the rest of us sane ricers _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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cokey Advocate
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Darckness wrote: | Please keep in mind that I'm directing this at the sane people out there. For others, there is simply no hope. |
Code: | CTARGET="bluegene cray" |
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Dralnu Veteran
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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How about adding in a section about hardware, like 10K+ hdds? (we all know about the hdpart section, might as well add in the cooresponding hard ware to look for, like a 30K RPM hdd...) _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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zxy Veteran
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 1160 Location: in bed in front of the computer
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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New in the need for speed section, you must use the following app, it speeds up everythig, because bash is slow and everything uses it at least to start.
Install now: sys-speed/bash2asm-converter
Then run it over your system
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cd /
bash2asm-converter * -r -d
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-r for recursive
-d for dangerous conversions
You will experience fantastic bootup times, programs will start faster. And because everythng is so fast your speedy computer will shut down after 1 min, as all the work was done automagically and there is no need for using electricity any more. _________________ Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished.
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Dralnu Veteran
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1919
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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New one: Cool your system with coffee. Cafine makes everything pick up faster, while things like "nitrogen" just make them cold and not want to move.
hot coffee ftw _________________ The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck, is the day they make a vacuum cleaner. |
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zxy Veteran
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Dralnu wrote: | New one: Cool your system with coffee. Cafine makes everything pick up faster, while things like "nitrogen" just make them cold and not want to move.
hot coffee ftw |
Version 2.50.0.17: Drop the box in the vulcano. It will get initial boost and go WOOOOOOSH immediately. (You may also combine the first idea and pour some coffe over it first) _________________ Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished.
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