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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mathio wrote:

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err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"c:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found



As the name 'wined3d.dll' suggests, the library belongs to wine (and thus can't be found on a windows XP box). It's wine's Direct3D implementation which is used by all Direct3D versions (d3d7, d3d8, d3d9).

Did you install wine from sources or using a package (rpm, deb etc)?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed from source
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emerge -va wine
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting issue I've got here. I run WoW in Wine, 0.9.24, installed via emerge. It works 99% perfectly. My only issue is that the 'alt' key modifier is passed to my window manager. This means I can't alt-click to trade items, and I also can't use the alt modifier in any macros/keybindings.
Is there any way to force wine to grab my alt key?
I'll add that it did work fine under cedega. And it also stops me from randomly moving the wow window around when I'm playing.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_enigma wrote:
Interesting issue I've got here. I run WoW in Wine, 0.9.24, installed via emerge. It works 99% perfectly. My only issue is that the 'alt' key modifier is passed to my window manager. This means I can't alt-click to trade items, and I also can't use the alt modifier in any macros/keybindings.
Is there any way to force wine to grab my alt key?
I'll add that it did work fine under cedega. And it also stops me from randomly moving the wow window around when I'm playing.


Click on the item, stay clicked, and push the alt key :)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_enigma wrote:
Interesting issue I've got here. I run WoW in Wine, 0.9.24, installed via emerge. It works 99% perfectly. My only issue is that the 'alt' key modifier is passed to my window manager. This means I can't alt-click to trade items, and I also can't use the alt modifier in any macros/keybindings.
Is there any way to force wine to grab my alt key?
I'll add that it did work fine under cedega. And it also stops me from randomly moving the wow window around when I'm playing.


depending on the window manager, you should be able to set the hotkey for moving windows to something else.
I'm in gnome and I got it set to my windows key for example ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That click-then-press-alt thing is a good idea, but I'd like to be able to just press alt to bring things up.

As to changing window manager bindings, that works (I believe). Well, I can disable it at least. But I like using it for non-full-screen apps. I guess I can live.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the problem using the alt-key in-game, I found by pressing both the Windows key and the alt-key simultaneously, I get the desired effect. Pressing the alt-key alone is also captured by Fluxbox.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I got around it eventually by updating to latest fluxbox (1.0rc2), which supports session.modKey: Mod4, so my Windows key is my 'move/resize' key, letting me use alt inside WoW.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mathio wrote:
Hello, I dont know whether anyone already experienced this problem. I googled it but I havent found anything similar to this, so here I am.

Everytime I try to start WoW.exe, with or without -opengl parameter I get the following error in console:
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fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x34fb98) stub!
err:ddraw:DDRAW_Create Couldn't load WineD3D - OpenGL libs not present?
fixme:advapi:SetSecurityInfo stub
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x7d940000, 1, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:ntdll:NtPowerInformation Unimplemented NtPowerInformation action: 11
fixme:powrprof:DllMain (0x7d940000, 0, (nil)) not fully implemented
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34eedc,0x00000000), stub!
err:module:import_dll Library wined3d.dll (which is needed by L"c:\\windows\\system32\\d3d9.dll") not found
fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x34f148,0x00000000), stub!

It says about some .dll file but I dont have it in fake windows directory, it is not in my real Windows XP instalation and I havent found it in the internet :(

There is also another error which seems to be some kind of Windows stuff but I think they could be about the same issue. Here is the screenshot.


Just wondering if you found a solution yet.
I am running into exactly the same problems (had to copy opengl32.dll and glu32.dll first to get to this point).

I emerged the very latest Win version: 0.9.26.

Would love to try out WoW under Linux again.

[edit]Just found out I had Wine emerged without the opengl USE flag. Re-emerging atm[/edit]
[edit2]the opengl USE flag did the trick. Can run WoW.exe with and without -opengl now[/edit2]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone ;)

I haven't visited these forums in a while, nor have I used linux in
well over a year, apart from some attempts to put it on my sony
sz1xp laptop.

When I was still on linux (first gentoo, later debian), I tried every-
thing to get World of Warcraft running in a playable fasion on my
system. I tried various version of wine and cedega, tried both
opengl and direct3d rendering, various kernels and kernel-patches,
from vanilla to ck-sources. I even tried upgrading my cpu, ram,
gfx-card and psu, hoping that perhaps the horrible performance
was caused by my hardware and that an upgrade would help.

All this was to no avail, as World of Warcraft still ran with horrible
frame rates. Sure, it ran fine if I stared at a wall, but that's not
exactly what I want to do in a game.

Anyway, my question to everyone here who is playing World of
Warcraft on linux/gentoo is, if the game runs well enough for you
to walk around Ironforge/Orgrimmar without it slowing to a crawl
and smoothly enough to join say, AQ20, BWL, Onyxia or Battle-
grounds and have fun without pulling your hair out when there's
some action on the screen.

I would not only want to know if it runs well, as I've heard many
such statements in the past and have never seen proof.

So, please provide the following:

- A screenshot of you in a raid or Battleground or some other hectic
situation with a lot of people involved, where I see your framerate.
- Kernel version / patchset
- CPU
- Amount of RAM
- Graphics Card
- Wine / Cedega version used
- Which graphical features do you have disabled/set to low in the game

Thanks to all who take the time to read this and reply ;)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:

A screenshot of you in a raid or Battleground or some other hectic
situation with a lot of people involved, where I see your framerate.


To have a real proof, you'd also need to see that we're running under linux - without that, a screenshot is worth just as much as my word!!
And btw, why would we all lie to you about the framerates? That wouldn't make sense. We all are just happy to be able to play WoW under linux.

kernel: vanilla 2.6.19-git4
CPU: x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ AuthenticAMD
RAM: 2GB
Graphics Card: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7800 GTX], driver version: 1.0-9742
Wine / Cedega version: wine from git, with my dsound/alsa patchset
in-game graphical features: pretty much everything enabled.

I often create videos, here is one which I hope will show you that the game indeed runs smooth (that means >25fps, no noticeable lags). Note that enabling capturing reduces the framerate by up to 50% and enabling fullscreen glow and other effects also reduces the framerate significantly, so I could have a much higher framerate if I disabled these features.
http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/torrents/thaddius.mp4.torrent - 30MB video
If you start the video with mplayer, you'll see that it has ~13fps, but the actual game was running smooth at that time.

If you want to try WoW again, I suggest you to read the wine appdb to see which patches you need to apply and what you can do to improve performance.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been working this last week on Wine and WoW myself, but haven't tested a lot yet since I want as much honor as I can get on the last honor calculation next wednesday when patch 2.01 kicks in.

Anyway, the testing so far was only in Orgrimmar and I can't say I am very happy with it.
During a late night (3am ish) I had a framerate of about 40fps max but mostly around 24fps... In windows this is 60fps.
Now, I have a C2D so the framerate is capped at 64fps atm and Orgrimmar usually is that way even when it is busy.

My specs:
C2D E6400 @ 3.2GHz
Nvidia 7900GTX
2GB RAM

Running WoW dedicated on X display/window(whatever) 3 with opengl.
I was hoping for better results with my system specs, but I might need to do some more testing next week.
This week I want a fast system.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neenee wrote:
Hi everyone ;)
- A screenshot of you in a raid or Battleground or some other hectic
situation with a lot of people involved, where I see your framerate.
- Kernel version / patchset
- CPU
- Amount of RAM
- Graphics Card
- Wine / Cedega version used
- Which graphical features do you have disabled/set to low in the game

Thanks to all who take the time to read this and reply ;)


I don't have screenshots at the moment, but I raid Naxx. I get about 10-15 fps. My brother has almost the same computer, but Windows, and he gets around 20. But I moved away and left my Linux behind, so I am working from memory here.

I had a Nitro kernel, the most up to date for the time (September-ish). My CPU was 2.4 gh p4, with hyper threading. I had a 6600GT Nvidia graphics card. I was using the most recent version of cedega, and had all the graphic effects set to max (does wine support cell shading yet?). I had only a gig of ram. I was using e17.

I was always pleased with how WoW ran. I knew it was slower than Windows, but it was more convinient for me since I don't like duel booting. Really, the more annoying thing was how ventrilo isn't supported on Linux. I would have to use my mac laptop to talk while playing with my pvp team. I could only ever get sound to work, never my mic, in Linux.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember having this issue before, but can't remember/find the fix.
I'm patching to 2.0.1 (enUS), but it's complaining about 0GB free. Of course, this is wrong, I have 10 free. Anyone remember the fix? I'm running wine, fwiw.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm






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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_enigma wrote:
I remember having this issue before, but can't remember/find the fix.
I'm patching to 2.0.1 (enUS), but it's complaining about 0GB free. Of course, this is wrong, I have 10 free. Anyone remember the fix? I'm running wine, fwiw.


That should be in de gentoo-wiki how-to.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freshy98 wrote:
the_enigma wrote:
I remember having this issue before, but can't remember/find the fix.
I'm patching to 2.0.1 (enUS), but it's complaining about 0GB free. Of course, this is wrong, I have 10 free. Anyone remember the fix? I'm running wine, fwiw.


That should be in de gentoo-wiki how-to.


Searched google, winappdb, everywhere else but there >.>
Anyway, i fell apart. Booted to windows + patched there, so i'm 2.0.1 ready
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies so far. I'll watch the movie when I get home otherside.

I wasn't implying that people here were lying, but I just saw mainly people
who favored running WoW on linux over getting performance comparable to
running it in Windows.

I'll think it over again and might switch, but at present I still see WoW under
linux as an option only for those who won't consider running Windows.

ps. I definitely do not want to start a X vs X thing, as I don't care what people
use, as long as they can do what they want and have fun while doing so.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_enigma: For no space problem you need to change the temp drive wine/cedega is using to a partition which have space. By default it use root i think which does not always have the 4Gb that any patch ask for. Not sure which file contains that info now, but look for the Temp drive definition in config files.

freshy98: strange the 64fps caps only for windows.. under linux I can go up to 150fps - facing a wall ;) on my X2 4400.

neenee: if I may forward you to my post on transgaming... as I write an addon to monitor fps in wow under linux, i also showed my number and specc.
http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6511

FYI: When I have terrible performance in WoW I sometimes reboot in windows and realize I get similar FPS in crowded town or instances. Hence I never stay in IF anymore, SW is better. With all settings on high, a massive 40 player instance can get as low as single digit FPS even under windows. As mention before, reducing distance view is best way to improve performance.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ikshaar, I haven't really played WoW in Linux yet.
My fps in combination with my videocard was absolutly not what I expected it to be, so I need to test things again for myself when I can be arsed.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grr! I decided to take the time to reinstall gentoo and, of course, had to reinstall WoW. Previously, I had just copied WoW from a Windows partition that no longer exists. Everything is fine except it keeps asking me for a disk 5! I've checked with several sources and there is no disk 5! Does anyone know the solution to this? Canceling the install process erases all installed files and killing it leaves the installation lacking the EXE's (if not more.)

I'm currently using Wine 0.9.26 emerged from portage.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCMCornell wrote:
Grr! I decided to take the time to reinstall gentoo and, of course, had to reinstall WoW.


Copy all files from all four CDs to one directory on the disk and install WoW from there..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCMCornell wrote:
Grr! I decided to take the time to reinstall gentoo and, of course, had to reinstall WoW. Previously, I had just copied WoW from a Windows partition that no longer exists. Everything is fine except it keeps asking me for a disk 5! I've checked with several sources and there is no disk 5! Does anyone know the solution to this? Canceling the install process erases all installed files and killing it leaves the installation lacking the EXE's (if not more.)

I'm currently using Wine 0.9.26 emerged from portage.


There actually *is* a disc 5. Recent versions of WoW sold, include a 5th CD with the big patches, which is used during installation. However, I think in your case it is simply a bug, and by copying everything in a directory you will be fine (had same problem, copying fixed it for me)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a newb. There is now a 5th disk in current releases. Apparently it was added to contain several patches. I must have misplaced it. I'm currently tracking another source for it or the original 4 disk release. :\
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as i know the complete game can be downloaded after the creation of a trial account. To play the full game, you of course still need a valid account:
https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm
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