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Bring Back Stage 1 and 2? |
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Evileye l33t
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 782 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: No longer supported (stage 1 and 2) |
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I went to install Gentoo and found stage 1 and 2 are no longer supported. Isn't this part of the whole Gentoo experience, to build the OS from scratch. I am dissapointed. |
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rhill Retired Dev
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 1629 Location: sk.ca
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Part of the whole Gentoo experience is also searching before you ask questions. _________________ by design, by neglect
for a fact or just for effect |
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sohalt Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 115
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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afaik stage1 and stage2 are still on the mirrors, but they are not included in the documentation. nevertheless the way to install gentoo using a stage[12] is documented in faq. so your poll is imho senseless.
(please correct me if i am false) |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54244 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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EvilEye,
Supported in this context means you won't get a gread deal of help if you do a stge 1 and it doesn't go smoothly.
Stage 1 and stage 2 and still made and distributed. The install guide has been relegated to the FAQ as not much more than a curiosity.
Stage 1 has some drawbacks, some circular dependancies are resolved by leaving packages out of the system list, so even though you have them, portage doesn't know. Stage 3 fixes this.
Better, is using the stage 3 tarball to do the satge 1 install steps. There has been a lot written about it on the forums over the years, including some in depth analysis. A stage 3 install takes away many opportunities to mess up without dropping the performace much at all.
Gentoo has not taken away your freedom or choice to do stage 1 or stage 2 installs, its just discouraged.
However, even that is arch dependant - some arches still only have stage 1. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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Naib Watchman
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 6051 Location: Removed by Neddy
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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never really done a stage1 or 2
always done a stage3
1st install: stage3, Windows hosed my RAID
2nd install stage3 BUT then re-build all of system akin to a stage1 _________________
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Q-collective Advocate
Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 2071
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Stage 3 + emerge world -e is all you really need. |
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Clete2 Guru
Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 530 Location: Bloomington, Illinois
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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You are still able to perform a Stage 1 or 2 install (my current one was built from 1), but it isn't documented anymore.
Personally, I think that Stage 2 should be eliminated.
Bring back Stage 1!
Edit: I realize you can stage 3 and then simply emerge -e world, but I am all about stage 1. _________________ My Blog |
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Evileye l33t
Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 782 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I will be doing and emerge World -e |
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Maedhros Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 5511 Location: Durham, UK
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