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yngwin Retired Dev


Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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dkostic wrote: | My .mp3's are all stored in the format...
Code: | Artist name\ -\ Album Title\ -\ Track number\ -\ Song title |
...so that they're sorted in an easy-to-search order. I would *love* to find an .mp3 player that just listed the files in that order. I've tried beep, xmms, rhythmbox, and audacious and they all have some weird (and similar, across the four of them) way of formatting the file names so that the playlist looks messed up. Sometimes the track numbers don't show up, sometimes strange characters appear, sometimes songs get printed in all caps, and they get put in the playlist editor all out of order. It's annoying . Anybody know of a player that *doesn't* do this? |
Amarok. While it uses tags in its collection, you can use the Files tab to select tracks the way you prefer.
I think it would also help to properly tag your collection, for example with EasyTag. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
Free Culture | Defective by Design | EFF |
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vonr Guru

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 300
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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mpd, with whatever frontend is hip at the moment. Usually my fvwm script calling mpc. |
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mantono n00b

Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 17 Location: Sweden, Stockholm
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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mpd with ncmpc, and sometimes xmms... I didn't now that bmp had been a new project (except for bmpx of course). I should take a closer look at Audacious. |
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xraver Veteran


Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 1083 Location: Halberstadt
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I use Amarok, but only since the last version is useful. before it, i use xmms. |
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ReDirEct__ Guru


Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 300 Location: Nola (NA) - Italy
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm tryng listen for gnome... i think it's the best substitute for amarok... |
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eldacar n00b

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 64 Location: Göteborg, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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Amarok all the way! |
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VoVaN l33t

Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 671 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Amarok is a _one_big_mess_ and CPU and memory hog IMHO, sorry. Tried a few times, since 1.1 version, but newer has been playing my music the way I want: sometimes sound is jerky, sometimes a kind of memory leaks or just a crash/stop responding... back to mpd  |
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Simius Apprentice

Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 219 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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dkostic wrote: | I still use beep-media-player but I absolutely hate it. My .mp3's are all stored in the format...
Code: | Artist name\ -\ Album Title\ -\ Track number\ -\ Song title |
...so that they're sorted in an easy-to-search order. I would *love* to find an .mp3 player that just listed the files in that order. I've tried beep, xmms, rhythmbox, and audacious and they all have some weird (and similar, across the four of them) way of formatting the file names so that the playlist looks messed up. Sometimes the track numbers don't show up, sometimes strange characters appear, sometimes songs get printed in all caps, and they get put in the playlist editor all out of order. It's annoying . Anybody know of a player that *doesn't* do this? |
I think you are suffering from id3 tags. They are a widespread ill, but can be remedied quite simply. I recommend the use of easytag, which lets you modify the file name according to information in the tags, before stripping the little bastards from your files.
I always remove all id3 tags, and store the files in a similar filename format. Now, when there's no id3 tag, the player has no choice but display the file name, which is the look you're going for as far as I understand. The only problem this poses is that such a filename is too long to display in the playlist window of xmms or audacious.
Since you can't scroll horizontally in these programs, this can be an annoyance. Otherwise, down with id3 tags!
Some facts about id3 tags:
- id3 tags don't contain character encoding info, and so are an enemy of i18n
- id3 tags have been used on several occasions by RIAA to track and persecute music downloaders
- id3 tags contain fields like "genre" that really don't make any sense
- id3 tags are a legacy from old win32, where filenames were limited to 8 characters.
- id3 tags are the cause of strange strings appearing in players instead of the file name
I say, down with them!
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jesso Guru

Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 397 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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amarok is wonderland |
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ZomAur n00b


Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Running amarok, works fine. |
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Earthwings Bodhisattva


Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7753 Location: Karlsruhe, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Merged a two-pages thread from Multimedia to this one. _________________ KDE |
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Backiz n00b

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: |
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Yes. Amarok it is. Try it out if you havent. Its full of great features, but quite heavy if you have got a old computer. _________________ In a world without fences, who needs Gates ?? |
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plbe l33t

Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Never had an issue with amarok |
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onlinepancakes Apprentice


Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Surprise - AZ
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Audacious or Xmms2. _________________ Onlinepancakes -- |
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glop20 n00b

Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Simius wrote: |
Some facts about id3 tags:
- id3 tags don't contain character encoding info, and so are an enemy of i18n
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id3v1 don't but id3v2 has been around for some time now, and ogg vorbis use utf8
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- id3 tags have been used on several occasions by RIAA to track and persecute music downloaders
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then share a whole album in a zip/rar file
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- id3 tags contain fields like "genre" that really don't make any sense
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use a better software, my favorite, gmusicbrowser supports any number of arbitrary genres for each file
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- id3 tags are a legacy from old win32, where filenames were limited to 8 characters.
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of course not, windows95, which supported long filenames, is much older than the wide use of mp3. And tags are much more powerful than filenames to store various info.
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- id3 tags are the cause of strange strings appearing in players instead of the file name
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tags wrote or read by stupid software
fact about filenames : you can't put some characters in it (like '/','?' ...)
tags are your friends, although I've got to admit id3v1 and id3v2 formats are good example of how NOT to design tags  |
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