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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: testing & final release (x86) (GentooCD with JMicron-sup Reply with quote

Gentoo 2006.1 livecd with JMicron-Support (JMB363/361/36x) support-/feedback-thread, "small gentoo" for x86

The goal of "small gentoo" is to provide a liveCD to support (most) of the most cutting edge hardware / features, yet stay as close as possible to the original gentoo-livecd

Hi,

this post originally was dedicated to the experimental (aka testing) & final release of "small gentoo" for x86, a GNU/Gentoo Linux-based liveCD with JMicron support, hence stable & experimental are deprecated it now should serve as support-/ feedback-thread for the newer x86-releases

each release is being tested by myself for several hours, simulating an installation of gentoo

featurelist:

* based on gentoo 2006.1 with gcc 4.1.1, glibc 2.4, linux-headers-2.6.17
* based on cheater1034's kernel-release no-sources 2.6.18-rc4-no2
* reiser4progs
* ntfsprogs
* dosfstools
* hddtemp, smartmontools, ide-smart, hdparm, sdparm
* centericq (with icq, irc, aim-support), elinks, (sorry, no links), ncftp
* mc with 7zip-support (dunno if it's working)
* testdisk & photorec with ntfs & reiserfs-support (+ many more) for all your emergency needs
* mdadm, raidtools, device-mapper, evms
* bmon, htop
* mirrorselect (for a faster gentoo-installation)
* chkrootkit, rkhunter, chpax, chntpw (for forgotten NT passwords :wink: )
* bc

final release specific features (in addition to the other ones) :
* modified & enhanced gentoo-initrd for better hardware-support & -detection
* irssi, screen, links (hangs sometimes !!)
* better detection of CD/DVD-Drive
* rp-pppoe, pppoe
* 2gb lowmem
* ipw2200 & ipw2100 support
* broad support of SCSI & S-ATA (try ATA_JMICRON for non-AHCI JMicron)
* rovclock (underclocking of ATI mobility cards)
* PPPoE-support
* partimage

post-r1 release specific features (in addition to the other ones) :
* glibc 2.5
* based on mm-sources (2.6.18-mm1)
* "native" support for evms & lvms2 (via genkernel)
* module-loading should work
* working graphical links (links -g www.google.com)

ok, should work, ... (tested on 2+X systems so far :roll: ) (thanks to MrGreen)
please, try it out ! / install gentoo with your Jmicron :wink:

I'm looking forward to your experience

Thanks again MrGreen, for hosting :)

For more information on "small gentoo", the Gentoo-based liveCD with JMicron-Support:
home of "small gentoo" (link)


One word of advice:
If you plan to use reiser4 for / (root), then don't enable RC_PARALLEL_STARTUP=yes

shouldn't use readahead-list and readahead-list-early , readahead-list works fine for me, so if you're into experiments, try it, but don't use PARALLEL_STARTUP! I'm not responsible if you kill all the data of you root partition :roll:

HAVE A LOT OF FUN :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woking here fine ..... :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realtek ethernet on Asus P5B now not working with this release. Is this to be expected?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this to be expected?


No, it's not, I'm somewhat puzzled
I checked the configuration of the old and new release with diff: they're identical :oops:

It's working on the stable release of the CD right ? or isn't it working at all ?

@phosphors:
thanks for reporting, btw

have you tried
Code:
dhcpcd eth0
or ethX on whatever number your network-card is located

could you show/write down the output of:
Code:
ifconfig -a


and
Code:
dmesg | grep eth


asus only writes down
Quote:
Realtek® PCI-E Gigabit LAN controller

that's not pretty much info, though
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doh! my apologies. dhcpcd eth1 fixed it. that was easy, i should'a tried that myself.

i do have two adapters. the onboard and a 3com. onboard is connected. 3com isn't. previous livecd dhcpcd'd for both as i recall. now only eth0 seems to request an address. and evidently eth0 is the 3com.

also, just an fyi, i'm getting the following out-of-place looking boot messages(maybe of no consequence)...

*WARNING: Adding critical service checkroot to the boot runlevel
...
/etc/conf.d/rc: line 225 svcdir: readonly variable
/sbin/function.sh : line 10 : declare : svclib: readonly variable
/sbin/function.sh : line 11 : declare : svclib: readonly variable
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, good news :roll:

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also, just an fyi, i'm getting the following out-of-place looking boot messages(maybe of no consequence)...


I've looked through those files, but I don't think that there will be any implications
those messages appear just because of the fact that the CD is a readonly filesystem in some parts (virtually writable)

checkroot was removed because it checks the root device (the CD filesystem should always be intact :wink: )
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, gonna try this enhanced one from a USB stick if I can get that to work. Looks good.

Will let you know.
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ok, go ahead :wink:

*Thumbs up*, good look :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am having troubles getting these LiveCDs to work from USB.
They keep on saying LIVE CD NOT FOUND etc just before the USB drive pops up as a recognised /dev/sdx

I did the dobladecenter thing in the boot options as per the LiveUSB howto, but it is still not slow enough.

Slightly offtopic in this thread, but does anyone know how to get round this prob?

On topic.. I will have this LiveCD working if anyone helps :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually really don't know, if these options work in conjunction with cheater1034's kernel (2.6.18-rc4-no2) / kernels other than genkernel / gentoo-sources ...

... but perhaps these links under this howto will help you:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Small_Footprint_Gentoo_on_USB
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep up the good work, I'm not going to use it because of Jmicron, but because it has now (as I understand) reiser4progs included and newest linux-headers, etc... And it seems you kept close to gentoo release and just added some missing features. Thanks. :wink:
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Great thanks for reiser4progs, this will definitely come in handy with my first gentoo install come this weekend!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernelOfTruth wrote:
I actually really don't know, if these options work in conjunction with cheater1034's kernel (2.6.18-rc4-no2) / kernels other than genkernel / gentoo-sources ...

... but perhaps these links under this howto will help you:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Small_Footprint_Gentoo_on_USB

I really appreciate your work as I have a P5B (not working at the moment, no CPU :D).

If I understand the problem, your CD is needed to boot on the JMB controller. To tell the truth, I have no SATA drive so, I'll have to continue booting on the JMB after the install. This shouldn't be a problem as it's possible to boot on the cd. Could you tell me what, I'll have to do fort this to work?

First, I'll have to compile the good kernel (I'll take the same version as the live CD :).) But which options need I to compile for this problem and which paramaters shoud I write in grub.conf and what will be the number of my device ? (HHD plugged on JMB).

Tell me if I'm wrong, it's possible? :D
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enhanced_smallgentoo farts for me.

BUG: atomic counter underflow at:
[<c02bce60>] unionfs_flush+0x3c/0xee
[<c015fab6>] filp_close+0x2f/0x54
[<c0160bdd>] sys_close+0x73/0xaa
[<c0102d51>] sysenter_past_esp+0x56/0x79
[<c06d007b>] _read_lock_irqsave+0xb/0x5e

I couldn't seem to get my raid setup with this livecd, I'd go for making it squashfs, and using a vanilla kernel to make it stable.

Also, add screen, links, and irssi :-p
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please kernelOfTruth help me out :X

I'm desperate for a solution to rtl8168 (your livecd is the only one that supports it) and my jmicron raid controller.

Your CD just seems to give a little nasty unionfs errors, so if possible, could you please fix it :), and add screen, links, and irssi. so I can be open for major business.

I'm going crazy here not being able to install gentoo.
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I believe he's away until tuesday cheater and only has access to his laptop right now
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eremini wrote:
I believe he's away until tuesday cheater and only has access to his laptop right now

I think cheater1034 is away until tuesday as well after the shock this news gave him. :lol: cheater1034 I understand how this feels but, you'll get over it with time. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kensai wrote:
eremini wrote:
I believe he's away until tuesday cheater and only has access to his laptop right now

I think cheater1034 is away until tuesday as well after the shock this news gave him. :lol: cheater1034 I understand how this feels but, you'll get over it with time. :wink:


Hmm, over time would be the next gentoo release, I can't wait that long to install gentoo can I?

Therefore I divised a crazy plan to install from the fedora core 5 livecd :-p
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds just scary lol
Their live cd supports your hardware?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That sounds just scary lol
Their live cd supports your hardware?


Well, actually the ark linux livecd supports it, whereas no other livecd does :-p
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@cheater1034:

sorry, for letting you wait that long :wink:
I'm a little busy right now & in addition to that my router died recently (yesterday evening, when I came back it just was off 8O )
& at the moment it's a little difficult to get to the internet without any pppoe-capable software installed under linux ...
I'm struggling with rp-pppoe
to get my internet working again (I'm writing from a win**** installation right now)

does the hardware-detection / support of my first experimental (non-enhanced version) work for you? I mean do you get those nasty "atomic counter underflow" errors with it?
if not I'll use it as a base & add the software you requested (hopefully raid will work then :roll: )

screen, links, and irssi will be added :)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to kernelOfTruth for this nice liveCD! I was to able to easily install gentoo yesterday on my new asus p5b board by using the enhanced_smallgentoo livecd. I did have the atomic counter underflow errors while booting but this did not seem to cause any trouble and all my sata/ide/ethenet devices were correctly detected.

However, I still have one problem remaining... I can't build a kernel that boots successfully... each one I built cause a kernel panic when booting (I can't identify the cause of the panic because I cannot scroll back the screen buffer to see the panic error message). I tried using 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 (with JMicron support) and 2.6.18-rc4. I even tried using the enhanced_smallgentoo's /proc/config.gz kernel config but it caused a panic too. Tonight I will try building a kernel using no-sources 2.6.18-rc4-no2 and we'll see if I can have more luck.

In the meantime I just copied the kernel/initrd used on the livecd to my /boot, grub'ed it and it runs absolutely great. A strange thing is that I do not get the "atomic counter underflow" errors anymore when booting the kernel this way. The downside is that I currently cannot build modules that work for this running kernel. But still, it allows me to run my system until I can build a kernel that does not panic AND detects all my devices correctly.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@belgique:
welcome to Gentoo :D

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If I understand the problem, your CD is needed to boot on the JMB controller

yes, you're right :) , as far as I know it is one of 2 Live-CDs which support it ...

I'll discuss this later more in detail (I'm a little busy right now), but these are the steps:
1) follow the gentoo handbook installation guide,
where the kernel is configured (
Quote:
7. Configuring the Kernel)
:

you could compile your own version or stick to Genkernel (give it a try, haven't tried it though)

select under
Code:
   ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  ---> 

Code:
 <*>     Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support                                                 
                  [*]     Use multi-mode by default                                                       
                  <*>     Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support

Code:
<*>     SCSI emulation support

Code:
 <*>     generic/default IDE chipset support
[*]     PNP EIDE support                                                               
               [*]     PCI IDE chipset support

Code:
[*]     PCI IDE chipset support 

Code:
 [*]       Generic PCI bus-master DMA support                                           
               [ ]         Force enable legacy 2.0.X HOSTS to use DMA                                 
               [*]         Use PCI DMA by default when available

Code:
 <*>         JMicron JMB36x support
<== this is the important piece

for users with a P5W DH (with another IDE-Controller):
Code:
 <*>         Intel PIIXn chipsets support


that should be enough for the ATA/ATAPI-Part, now on to the SATA-Part:
(I don't know if you still need it, but SCSI disk-support should be enabled:
Code:
<*>   SCSI disk support
)


Code:
 <*> ATA device support                                                                 
                <*>   AHCI SATA suppor

Code:
 <*>   Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support       


perhaps you need:
Code:
 <*>   Silicon Image SATA support                                                       
                <*>   Silicon Image 3124/3132 SATA support   


Code:
<*> Generic ATA support
<== doesn't hurt in this release, so enable it

intel PATA-controller:
Code:
   <*> Intel PATA MPIIX support                                                           
                 <*> Intel PATA old PIIX support (Experimental)


2.) follow the default bootloader part with grub-install:
Quote:
Default: Setting up GRUB using grub-install

so you'll see which harddrive you'll have to set in grub.conf

3.) for the rest: follow gentoo handbook

I hope this helps ...

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Concerning the atomic underflow error:

Quote:
BUG: atomic counter underflow at:
[<c02bce60>] unionfs_flush+0x3c/0xee
[<c015fab6>] filp_close+0x2f/0x54
[<c0160bdd>] sys_close+0x73/0xaa
[<c0102d51>] sysenter_past_esp+0x56/0x79
[<c06d007b>] _read_lock_irqsave+0xb/0x5e


I have already changed & tried to solve this error, but it I can't fix it since my initrd (in the enhanced version) seems to access space / somewhere it shouldn't ...

I already tried out Lepaca Kliffoth "vanilla"-version, but I still encountered the error (my initrd actually is based on his): [urlhttps://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2938533.html#2938533]link [/url]
kudos to Lepaca Kliffoth for his great guide

@cheater1034 or eremini:
here is the error message
do you eventually have an advice, what I should change in my

@cheater1034:
I haven't included links, because it had locked up the system both in graphical and in normal mode,
so use it with caution ... :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@cheater1034:

sorry, I had some serious problems:
* had to play back a backup of the livecd / state
* CD segfaulted
* your mentioned problem
* CD wasn't recognized

now it hopefully should be solved:
I am using my "own" initrd now with modules working (should ...)
tomorrow it will be uploaded ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kernelOfTruth wrote:
tomorrow it will be uploaded ...


I will love you for life <3<3

I've had people tell me to make my own cd several times :-p, It's kind of hard to make a CD without gentoo/lux installed

and I've also had people say the ubuntu CD, but that's not cool, I need reiser4.
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