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mart_man00
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 Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: using ebuilds like rpms |
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i want to use ebuilds like rpms on my new (mostly workjng) gentoo box. i mean with rpms you have the program and its dependancies all in their own rpms. if your lucky enough not to go threw rpm hell it will be smart enough to install the dependacies from the rpms in the same folder. rpms also have the architecture in their name.
how can i use -b option of portage to do something like this? i want this so i can have a recovery cd for my desktop and laptop. is their a good site to explain this? i know this will take some research for me but im not sure what to look up.
as i see it i need to learn/know : how to make portage seperate programs and dependacies, where all the files will be, which one of the text utils will let me add to a file name (something like kde-i686).
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krusty_ar
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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You canstart looking here. methinks most of you requisites are covered, further automation depends on how well do you get with bash 
| Code: | * sys-apps/epm
Latest version available: 0.8.1
Latest version installed: 0.8.1
Size of downloaded files: 6 kB
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/~agriffis/epm/
Description: rpm workalike for Gentoo Linux |
there's also the buikdpkg FEATURE (make.conf) thas forces emerge to build a package for every installed ebuild
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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but wouldnt the -b flag put the program and the dependancies in 1 ebuild? thats a waste of space and time. i heard about that package from another thread, ill play with it. but what about the file name part, which one of the text tools do i need to know for it? sed? awk?
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| any gentoo guys have a idea? id like to start this tonight. |
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bmichaelsen
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | but wouldnt the -b flag put the program and the dependancies in 1 ebuild? |
No, it will generate one *.tbz2 archive per package. So with
you get many handy tiny compiled packages.
They are named like /usr/portage/packages/All/sun-j2sdk-1.4.1.tbz2 There will be a symlink in /usr/portage/packages/dev-java too.
If you then
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portage will look for the tbz2 and unpack it.
Note: There is a difference in -b and -B: -B builds the package but does not install it, while -b build the package and does install it. So if you just want packages for another machine, better use -B
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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i noticed in /usr/portage i still have alot of files. are these the sources or are they compiled. i see alot of ebuilds in a programs dir. could all of them be combined into 1 ebuild?
could i tell emerge how i want a packages to be compiled or do i have to swap make.conf files?
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bmichaelsen
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Most of the dirs in /usr/portage like net-www just contain the .ebuilds e.g. the scripts to build a package. sources are in /usr/portage/distfiles and compiled packages are in /usr/portage/packages (with a standard make.conf).
| Quote: | could i tell emerge how i want a packages to be compiled or do i have to swap make.conf files?
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You can manually overwrite USE-Flags, see Portage Manual, but not CFLAGS, I think - so happy swapping.
| Quote: | | could all of them be combined into 1 ebuild? |
 Why do you want to do that
Although you easily can write a short bash-script like
| Code: | #!/bin/bash
emerge -B package1 package2 yadda yadda
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save this to a file and
it and then just
There is a way to avoid make.conf-swapping discribed by hgomersall here and by jingo here and I have to admit it has some charme. Building packages with emerge -B might be the way to go if you want to help a friend to have a fast gentoo install. The NFS approch is not so handy here since both computers have to stay connected while compiling. emerge -B might also be handy if you have no NFS in your kernel *cough* /me *cough*
Choose your poison ...
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Why do you want to do that |
having the program and its patches in one file just seems easier. but i dont want dependacies since they can be compiled once and then shared.
so ebuilds are just scripts? not like a rpm?
id actually like to do pre-compiled packages and nfs. then i could upgrade my laptop(which will get 802.11g someday, i cant believe im actually thinky about a apple product!) and have a backup. id like to just setup 2 folders and burn them each regualry and have the folders be shared, it would be alot easier. |
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bmichaelsen
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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yes ebuilds are not really like rpms.
If you
you get someting rpm-like in /usr/portage/packages, tbz2 files with the completely patched binaries (compiling and patching etc. has been done already by emerge - infos for that are in the .ebuild file) . No dependencies since every package has its own tbz2.
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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so i need to par up the ebuild script and the tbz files? or is it inside the tbz? would portage look inside the tbz?
doesnt seem like i can do what i wanted. now id like to keep gentoo but fix rpm dependancy hell and throw that in.
id like to try this myself, but im going to be stuck in windows for a couple more hours. sorry for the questions, id like to get this started soon.
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bmichaelsen
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 3:57 am Post subject: |
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the .ebuild files are not big. and BTW they get automatically updated with every emerge rsync. so after a emerge rsync, you just need the tbz2 s.
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ebuilds are like the spec files for source-rpms, they control the compilation and installation process. If you use "emerge -b" you create .tbz2 packages that correspond to the rpm binary packages and can be handled like them with "emerge -k". Please note that the -B switch can make some problems if not all dependencies for the requested package are installed on the compile machine as this is a requirement to compile a package. |
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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when i did emerge -B kde it only did what need to be upgraded, not the whole thing like i want.
sorry for bring up a old thread, i just now got a chance to try it. |
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bmichaelsen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | emerge -B kde it only did what need to be upgraded |
well, use --emptytree/-e to compile all dependencies existent or not on this system...
[/code]emerge -Be kde |
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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root # emerge -emptytree -B kdevelop
!!! Error: -m is an invalid short action or option.
root #
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| use --emptytree (2 -) or -e |
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mart_man00
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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emerge -eB kdevelop
Calculating dependencies ...done!
!!! --buildpkgonly requires all dependancies to be merged.
!!! Cannot merge requested packages. Merge deps and try again.
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i thought portage take care of all the dependancies? |
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