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bn_me n00b
Joined: 12 May 2002 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:51 am Post subject: Static + Crackling sounds. ALSA. emu10k1 |
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Well, here we go:
I have a SBLive! It works great in Mandrake, RH, Windows, etc. Now here's the problem. I followed the docs to install ALSA, and everything seems to work.
When I play a song in XMMS, or heck, any song on any program for that matter, there's this horrible staticy and crackling noise, at certain notes and at times when there's lot of bass.
So what settings do I need to change? Or is it something more? |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Same issue here with a nforce 1 mobo/sound. Scratching, and crackling sometimes. I don't remember it from my previous gentoo install...maybe it's an issue with the current version. |
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timmfin Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2002 Posts: 336 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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When you run alsamixer, how high is PCM set? I don't have the same sound card but if I set the PCM setting above 75, the sound becomes worse and worse. |
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bn_me n00b
Joined: 12 May 2002 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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timmfin wrote: | When you run alsamixer, how high is PCM set? I don't have the same sound card but if I set the PCM setting above 75, the sound becomes worse and worse. |
There's the next problem... When I lower the PCM to anything that's not 100, in either amixer or kmixer, a touch of the volume controls in XMMS will slap that PCM setting back to 100.
Man... This is really annoying me to know extent... The KDE sounds are whacked out too. |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:52 am Post subject: |
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hum, I have my PCM at 50% so I don't think that's the issue on mine |
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puddpunk l33t
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 681 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:30 am Post subject: |
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I have friends which experiance the same crackly pop sounds from their soundcards (same as yours) even when using windows. Try shifting the sound card away from the CPU, network cards and/or hard disks as much as possible.
Try using OSS emulation, as I don't think XMMS has quite got a handle on the 0.9 ALSA libs yet (i could be wrong...).
Hope I could help,
Chris. |
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timmfin Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2002 Posts: 336 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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bn_me: By default the volume control in xmms is directly linked to the PCM channel. By chaning the xmms volume you actually are changing the PCM volume. The good thing is that you can change this.
Right click on xmms -> options -> preferences
Click the Audio I/O Plugings tab, make sure ALSA is the selected output plugin (if its not there emerge alsa-xmms). Press configure. Type Master in the mixer device, instead of PCM.
Now chaning the Xmms volume changes the master volume, feel free to set it to 100, it shouldn't cause any sound problems. |
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eNTi Veteran
Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 1011 Location: Salzburg, Austria
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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the terrible sound usually comes from the VERY bad software mixer. you may want to set the follwing in alsamixer:
tone: mute
this will switch off the software treble/bass amplifier. you can even try some settings with bass/treble but bass over 50% will give you a REALLY terrible sound (at least it does to me). i'm fine without tone. _________________ If you fall off a cliff, you might as well try to fly. After all, you got nothing to lose.
-- John Sheridan - Babylon 5, Season 4 |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:54 am Post subject: |
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and where might that be? I tried the mans for alsamixer and don't see anything...there's no tone, treble or bass portion on alsamixer that I can see :\. |
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eNTi Veteran
Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 1011 Location: Salzburg, Austria
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 6:50 am Post subject: |
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what alsa-packages do you have emerged? try to emerge the emu10k1-package as well (if you haven't already). the "treble" switch should come after the "bass" which actually comes after "tone". have you tried to scroll to the right with the cursor keys? _________________ If you fall off a cliff, you might as well try to fly. After all, you got nothing to lose.
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Do I need a SB soundcard...just using the nForce board's inbuilt chip... |
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jay l33t
Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 980
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:30 am Post subject: |
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thadk What type of nforce mobo and alsa driver are you using? _________________ Do you want your posessions identified? [ynq] (n) |
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xonit n00b
Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 71
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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if u are using a VIA chipset its also depending on your HD Transfer (high transfer = crack) if it will crack or not. buggy hardware *gg*
bye
xonit _________________ Asus A3L |
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xonit n00b
Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 71
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Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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if u are using a VIA chipset its also depending on your HD Transfer (high transfer = crack) if it will crack or not. buggy hardware *gg*
bye
xonit _________________ Asus A3L |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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MSI's 420D one KF420 I think. like I said, I don't remember it being like this last time in gentoo 1.3 when someone advised to use alsa originally with the nforces. OSS emulation seems to be identical. And I know it's not interference because it only does it when there's a lot of bass and it is fine on windows. |
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jay l33t
Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 980
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I use a MSI 415D with built-in chip. I use the alsa snd-intel8x0 driver without problems now. It used to freeze my box due to IRQ conflicts with my TV card. Still the sound quality is far from it's windows counterparts. Just stereo although it is capable of 5.1 dolby sound. _________________ Do you want your posessions identified? [ynq] (n) |
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Goalie_Ca Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Vancouver,B.C
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'm having the same problem. It's really pissing me off. I was using alsa in redhat and no matter what volume it was always clear. Windows only gets static when turned up really loud.
I'm kinda desperate for a soultion now. Do the OSS drivers crack too? _________________ Jabber: goalieca[AT]jabber.fr
Beautiful Vancouver, B.C.
http://www.sfu.ca/~rdickie/images/sig_small.jpg |
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chr1z Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jul 2002 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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set the
Master volume to 100%
and the
PCM volume to 70%
that should give you good sound (at least on my machine) |
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Goalie_Ca Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 156 Location: Vancouver,B.C
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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my static is gone now, but i set PCM to 0, Master to 100, and my speakers can still become too loud quite easily. _________________ Jabber: goalieca[AT]jabber.fr
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jay l33t
Joined: 08 May 2002 Posts: 980
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2003 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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You can test the OSS drivers befor buying them. The download comes with a three hour limited evaluation license. In general it is said that the OSS drivers are less buggy, have better sound quality and often support functions that the open source driver can't due to non-disclosure-agreements. _________________ Do you want your posessions identified? [ynq] (n) |
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thadk Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 123
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Glad I didn't drop 45 bucks for those OSS drivers, the issue seems to be repaired with the new alsa 9rc7 |
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cult hero Apprentice
Joined: 13 Oct 2002 Posts: 186 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Just as a side note I did some playing with the ALSA mixer because the playback on my mp3s was terrible and, as was mentioned here, got really bad during heavy bass sections.
The PCM really isn't the issue as I now run it at 100 without a problem. The issue is the default bass and treble setting settings in ALSA. I knocked both of those down under 40 (the green color if you're using alsamixer from the console) and life's been really good ever since. |
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mvr_rennes Apprentice
Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 155
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Try this: fire up alsamixer, go to the 2nd rightmost control (SBLive) and mute it.
It worked for me...
Cheers!
M |
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