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thecooptoo
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 Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: cant connect to my palm pilot [SOLVED] |
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it appears when hotsync is pressed
| Code: | ravity tmp # lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 413c:3010 Dell Computer Corp. Optical Wheel Mouse
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0830:0060 Palm, Inc. Palm Tungsten T / Zire 71
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
gravity tmp # |
but no nodes are produced
all i get in dmesg is this
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usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
gravity tmp # |
it automatically detected a USB mouse , so i think the USB setup is OK
how do i get it make ttyUSB0 ?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think you need to setup a custom udev rule to make this work. Here's mine, in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules: | Code: | | BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Tungsten C", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot", GROUP="wheel" |
This works for me. I sync to a Windows VMWare guest, because I have software on the Palm that has no linux equivalent, but the "pilot" symlink gets created so it works. You may want to change the product name and possibly the symlink name. |
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thecooptoo
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Im sure its a udev problem, but i cant get a udev rule that works .
Once I modprobed visor i get | Code: | visor 3-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected
usb 3-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0
usb 3-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
paul@gravity ~ $ |
this , as root , connects
| Code: | | pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l |
but as user | Code: | paul@gravity ~ $ pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l
Please check the permissions on /dev/ttyUSB1..
Possible solution:
chmod 0666 /dev/ttyUSB1
Unable to bind to port: /dev/ttyUSB1
Please use --help for more information
paul@gravity ~ $ |
ive been trying different options for the udev rules
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# pilot/palm devices
#KERNEL=="pilot", NAME="%k", GROUP="uucp"
#BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Tungsten ", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot", GROUP="users", OWNER="paul", MODE="0666"
#GROUP="wheel" doesnt work
#http://cvs.codeyard.net/kpilot/faq.php
#KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot", GROUP="uucp", MODE="0666"
KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="pilot", OWNER="paul" GROUP="users", MODE="O666"
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ive tried with and without MODE="0666" and with a variety of owners/groups
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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This works great for me with udev-104-r11 in kernel 2.6.20 for a Palm Tungsten T3:
Setup
Kernel:
Programs:
| Code: | | emerge pilot-link rsync |
Permissions:
| Code: | | gpasswd -a <you> usb |
(Then log out, for the group change to take effect.)
I use the latest version of pilot-link:
/usr/local/portage/app-pda/pilot-link/pilot-link-0.12.2.ebuild (also see bugzilla for ebuilds)
| Code: | # Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $
inherit eutils perl-module
MY_PV=${PV/_/-}
MY_P=${PN}-${MY_PV}
DESCRIPTION="Suite of tools for moving data between a Palm device and a desktop"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.pilot-link.org/"
SRC_URI="http://downloads.pilot-link.org/${MY_P}.tar.bz2"
LICENSE="|| ( GPL-2 LGPL-2 )"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 ia64 ~ppc ~sparc ~x86"
IUSE="perl java tcltk python png readline"
DEPEND="virtual/libc
sys-libs/ncurses
perl? ( dev-lang/perl )
java? ( virtual/jre )
tcltk? ( dev-lang/tcl dev-tcltk/itcl dev-lang/tk )
python? ( dev-lang/python )
png? ( media-libs/libpng )
readline? ( sys-libs/readline )"
S=${WORKDIR}/${MY_P}
src_compile() {
local myconf="--includedir=/usr/include/libpisock"
use java \
&& myconf="${myconf} --with-java=yes" \
|| myconf="${myconf} --with-java=no"
use perl \
&& myconf="${myconf} --with-perl=yes" \
|| myconf="${myconf} --with-perl=no"
use python \
&& myconf="${myconf} --with-python=yes" \
|| myconf="${myconf} --with-python=no"
use tcltk \
&& myconf="${myconf} --with-tcl=/usr/lib --with-itcl=yes --with-tk=yes" \
|| myconf="${myconf} --with-tcl=no --with-itcl=no --with-tk=no"
use png && myconf="${myconf} --with-libpng=/usr"
use readline \
&& myconf="${myconf} --with-readline=yes" \
|| myconf="${myconf} --with-readline=no"
econf \
${myconf} \
--enable-conduits \
--enable-threads \
--enable-libusb \
|| die
# java fails w/emake
make || die
if use perl ; then
cd "${S}"/bindings/Perl
perl-module_src_prep
perl-module_src_compile
fi
}
src_install() {
make DESTDIR="${D}" install || die
dodoc ChangeLog README doc/README* doc/TODO NEWS AUTHORS
if use perl ; then
cd "${S}"/bindings/Perl
perl-module_src_install
fi
} |
To be able to back up the Palm's SD card if you have one (as opposed to the Palm's RAM), buy and install Card Export 2 on the Palm.
Files
/etc/fstab entry for the SD card:
| Code: | | /dev/pilot-card /mnt/pilot-card vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0 |
~/bin/backuppalmcard
| Code: | #!/bin/sh
# Is run automatically, thanks to custom udev rules
# Uses /etc/fstab and /etc/udev/rules.d/91-local.rules
ME="brebs"
DEST="/home/${ME}/palm/backup/card"
MNT="/mnt/pilot-card"
echo "Waiting for /dev/pilot-card"
until [[ -e "/dev/pilot-card" ]] ; do
sleep 1
done
echo "Syncing Palm card..."
echo
# Necessary pause - for slow Palm, presumably
sleep 1
# Create dirs
if [[ ! -d "${MNT}" ]] ; then
mkdir "${MNT}"
chmod 770 "${MNT}"
chown root:usb "${MNT}"
fi
mkdir -p "${SYNC_DIR}"
mount "${MNT}" && rsync -ralpogt --delete --force "${MNT}"/ "${SYNC_DIR}"
# Necessary pause - for slow Palm, presumably
sleep 1
umount "${MNT}" |
~/bin/backuppalm
| Code: | #!/bin/sh
# Is run automatically, thanks to custom udev rules
# Uses /etc/udev/rules.d/91-local.rules
ME="brebs"
SYNC_DIR="/home/${ME}/palm/backup/ram"
# From http://www.clasohm.com/blog/one-entry?entry%5fid=12096
echo "Waiting for /dev/pilot to exist..."
until [[ -e "/dev/pilot" ]] ; do
sleep 1
done
echo "Syncing Palm RAM (but not card)..."
echo
#export PILOTPORT="/dev/pilot"
# Uses libusb instead of visor kernel module
# http://code.pilot-link.org/README.libusb
export PILOTPORT="usb:"
# The H is intentional, apparently
#export PILOTRATE="H115200"
mkdir -p "${SYNC_DIR}"
/usr/bin/pilot-xfer --exclude "/home/${ME}/palm/exclude.lst" -s "${SYNC_DIR}"
echo "Now run backuppalmcard" |
~/palm/exclude.lst
| Code: | Splash-splH
PalmSGHiResFonts
ImgFile-Foto
Jpeg-Foto
PACE
PhotosDefaultDB-Foto
WordToGoFonts
SlideshowFonts
PMHDB
PMNDB
PIMsSupportStatus-pdmE |
/etc/udev/rules.d/91-local.rules
| Code: | # For Palm, from http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
# Has 2 ttys, apparently - don't care about the first one.
# "pilot" is the default used by pilot-xfer.
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[1,3,5,7,9]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660", RUN+="/home/brebs/bin/backuppalm"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[0,2,4,6,8]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot-other", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660"
SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi", ATTRS{model}=="Card Export", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot-card", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660", RUN+="/home/brebs/bin/backuppalmcard" |
Change "brebs" to your username, of course 
Backing up
Put the Palm in its cradle and press the hotsync button. The RAM hotsync will occur automatically.
To back up the SD card, run "Card Export" on the Palm and click "connect to desktop". After a couple of seconds, the "read" indicator will flash green, indicating that the sync is occurring. When it stops, click "disconnect".
Edit: Changed BUS to SUBSYSTEMS in udev rules, to work with udev-120.
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thecooptoo
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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thanks [/url] solved ( eventually)
this is what works
| Code: | gravity paul # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules |grep pilot
# pilot/palm devices
# "pilot" is the default used by pilot-xfer.
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[1,3,5,7,9]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK="pilot", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660", OWNER="paul"
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0,2,4,6,8]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK="pilot-other", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660" |
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Edit the file I specified, not udev's file (which changes with every new release of udev). And yourself to the appropriate group, rather than define the owner. |
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thecooptoo
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | gravity rules.d # ls -la
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 12 09:18 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 May 5 07:12 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 385 Jun 28 00:18 05-udev-early.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12639 Aug 11 22:28 50-udev.rules
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35 Apr 18 22:46 hsf.rules
gravity rules.d # |
Even when I havent got one ?
How does udev get the file names ?
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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equery belongs 50-udev.rules shows that the file belongs to udev
/etc/udev/udev.conf contains:
| Code: | # udev_rules - The name and location of the udev rules file
udev_rules="/etc/udev/rules.d/" |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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so do i make a /etc/udev/rules.d/91-local.rules file and put the palm stuff ( and what else??) in there ?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I was looking for a practical way to sync my Treo 650 using jpilot. Your udev rules file works for me:
| PaulBredbury wrote: |
| Code: | # For Palm, from http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
# Has 2 ttys, apparently - don't care about the first one.
# "pilot" is the default used by pilot-xfer.
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[1,3,5,7,9]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660", RUN+="/home/brebs/bin/backuppalm"
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[0,2,4,6,8]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot-other", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660"
BUS=="scsi", SYSFS{model}=="Card Export", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot-card", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660", RUN+="/home/brebs/bin/backuppalmcard" |
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Although I only used the first two lines and changed them a bit (because I do not directly use pilot-link or your scripts):
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BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm *", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[1,3,5,7,9]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660"
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{product}=="Palm *", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*[0,2,4,6,8]", ACTION=="add", SYMLINK+="pilot-other", GROUP="usb", MODE="0660"
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My phone in lsusb reads "Palm, Inc" so I deleted "Handheld".
I set the port in jpilot to /dev/ttyUSB1 and it works. Thanks.
However, if I set "usb:" in jpilot it just doesn't work, complaining about binding problems:
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Check your serial port and settings
Exiting with status SYNC_ERROR_BIND
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I checked my /dev, and find that I have /dev/bus/usb/* and /dev/usbdev* at the same time. I am using kernel 2.6.22 and udev says it only uses /dev/bus/usb/. However when I press sync button on my Treo I can see some more /dev/usbdev* files, with permission 660 and user:group=root:root. So I started jpilot as root trying to use "usb:" but this time it says there's no such file. Any ideas?
Related software and versions:
jpilot 0.99.7-r1
libusb 0.1.12-r1
udev-114
pilot-xfer 0.11.8
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The Palm TX triggers a udev "add" event when it's turned on, rather than only when the hotsync button is pressed (as with the Palm T3 in its cradle), so the udev rule to RUN+="blah/backuppalm" should be removed - run backuppalm manually when the hotsync button has been pressed, instead. |
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