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fusama n00b
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Posts: 21 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: what happened to stage 1 and stage 2? |
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My gentoo system started acting like my old windows system (programs randomly crashing for no apparent reason), so I decided to treat it like a windows system: wipe and reinstall. I'm sure the instability was my fault; I probably broke something durring my kernel programming class last semester. So, anyway, I reformat the drive pop in my newly minted gentoo install CD and start steping through the documentation when it tells me to use a stage 3 because stage 1 and 2 are no longer supported.
What happened to Stage 1 and 2? Why are they no longer supported? Does "no longer supported" mean that I can still do a stage 1 if I want, there just isn't any documentation, or is it gone? I was planning on doing a Stage 1 because I have an AMD Sempron, I have the time, and I have a second computer to use in the mean time. |
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sternklang Veteran
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 1641 Location: Somewhere in time and space
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: what happened to stage 1 and stage 2? |
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fusama wrote: | Does "no longer supported" mean that I can still do a stage 1 if I want, there just isn't any documentation, or is it gone? | Yes, you can still do a stage 1, unsupported means just that, but nothing's stopping you from asking questions on the forums anyway.
See How do I Install Gentoo Using a Stage1 or Stage2 Tarball? from the Gentoo FAQs for a little bit of info. |
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mdeininger Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1740 Location: Emerald Isles, observing Dublin's docklands
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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isn't doing a stage3, changing the chost and doing a double emerge system && emerge world pretty much identical to a stage1? i wouldn't see much of a reason for a stage1 anymore... it just takes longer to get a semi-usable system up. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54244 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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mdeininger,
If you change your CHOST, emerge -e system will break horribly. Providing you choose the right stage 3 there is no need, there being stages for CHOSTs i386, i586, and i686. Does anyone still run gentoo on a 386 or 486 CPU ?
Should you really want to change your CHOST, you need to run bootstrap.sh before you emerge -e system. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
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mdeininger Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1740 Location: Emerald Isles, observing Dublin's docklands
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | mdeininger,
If you change your CHOST, emerge -e system will break horribly. Providing you choose the right stage 3 there is no need, there being stages for CHOSTs i386, i586, and i686. Does anyone still run gentoo on a 386 or 486 CPU ?
Should you really want to change your CHOST, you need to run bootstrap.sh before you emerge -e system. |
i was assuming a "compatible" change. i meant like... you had a 386 chost and changed it to a 686 one. i did that a buncha times and it worked. i'd assume the same for, say, a 686 chost to a x86_64 one, provided that you compiled a kernel that can handle the new binaries.
i really did that a buncha times and it worked out just fine... at least as good as a fresh stage1 that is. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54244 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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mdeininger,
Hmm. I'm surprised that you can even change CHOSTs within the x86 family, since the CHOST is used to locate elements of your toolchain.
Other programs also record the CHOST they were built with and get upset if its changed. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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mdeininger Veteran
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1740 Location: Emerald Isles, observing Dublin's docklands
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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NeddySeagoon wrote: | mdeininger,
Hmm. I'm surprised that you can even change CHOSTs within the x86 family, since the CHOST is used to locate elements of your toolchain.
Other programs also record the CHOST they were built with and get upset if its changed. |
not sure... i was only reporting what i did.
gcc-config for example still has a list of all the actually available gcc-profiles (gcc-config -l apparently ignores your chost... although other options seem to care about it), and all the compiler tools have short names in /usr/bin that are linked the filesystem-way, so i'd think they're used instead of a new path being crafted from your chost on every emerge. *shrugs* _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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nixnut Bodhisattva
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 10974 Location: the dutch mountains
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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