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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: X on Sparc help please Reply with quote

I have gentoo 2.4.27 running on a Ultra 10 with ATI gfx. I emerged KDE which compiled Xorg, not sure which version.

Anyway when X is started the screen goes black and I can never get it back. I end up having to power cycle the box to get it back, not a good thing.

Any ideas for a n00b to try out. I did find a sample config for Xorg on the forums. Gonna try that as see, keeping my fingers crossed.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 unless you did something unusual. And from your description, it soulds like the driver for your graphics card is this (used for mach64):
Code:

 Section     "Device"
  Driver      "ati"
  . . .

Now, in your Monitor section, you probably want to establish your monitor charactistics; e.g., thus:
Code:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        HorizSync    31-107
        VertRefresh  60-160
        Option       "DPMS"
EndSection

Where the values are for illustration only; the ones you supply depend on your monitor.

Notice that thare is a log file --- /var/log/Xorg.0.log --- which should give you an indication of what Xorg did when you started it. Also,
"Xorg --configure" should be helpful in getting an initial approximation of a good xorg.conf for you (it tries to match your monitor to your graphics card).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: w00t Reply with quote

Ok got alot further with your help. I have 2 issues to work on, something up with the sound driver, not really important. But what is important, the kicker is crashing. Everything else seems to be ok.

If you have any ideas on what to look for. The backtrace is showing nothing, so I am assed out on that.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if you get anything in .xsession-errors in your home dir, that might give you a hint on the kicker crash..

As far as sound goes, artsd doesn't work with the 2.4 kernel driver for cs4231... Lost cause there.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i-right-i, Doesn't shift+control+backspace help you out from X to check the logs?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emphii wrote:
i-right-i, Doesn't shift+control+backspace help you out from X to check the logs?


Hmmm - This is in 2004, I got the *exact same* problem in 2006 on the very same setup (my graphics is an ATI Rage 3D, w 255MB RAM);

Did anyone *solve this*? (Somebody must have because otherwise there should be more noise generated from failing sparc installs. I feel inadequate ;-)

shift+ctr+backspace does nothing - it really hangs!

there is no .xsession-errors file produced - curious that is.

Does the graphics card needs extra drivers?

The Xorg help page alludes to drivers for ATI but they are all "masked by keyword". I am not yet clear on what that exactly means, I take the notes i found in the getoo mask files to mean that the drivers are masked for migration from X11 to Xorg.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The (xorg) drivers are all installed. If you mean things like x11-drivers/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-8.22.5.ebuild, they are masked because they are part of xorg-x11-7.0 (X-modular), all of which is masked. "The kicker is crashing" sounds vaguely familiar --- is the with KDE? I don't really know anything about it; you might get better results on the freenode #gentoo-sparc IRC channel (the person to ask is gustavoz).

What you are trying to do has been done, but not by me. Sorry. :(
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming you are trying to kill X, I've always used ctrl+alt+backspace and haven't really had any issues with it (when the box I'm attempting it on hasn't gone out to lunch).
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kicker used to be a real problem.

What version of KDE are you trying to run, 3.5+ should be OK.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same exact problem with my Ultra 10, running ATI Rage gfx card.

I followed the xorg.conf listed in this thread: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-174481.html and got it working fine

select parts of my xorg.conf:

Code:

Section "Module"
...
Load  "cfb32"
EndSection

Code:

Section "Device"
    Identifier "Card0"
    Driver     "sunffb"
EndSection

Code:

Section "Screen"
  Identifier "Screen0"
  Device     "Card0"
  Monitor    "Monitor0"
  DefaultDepth 24
...

Code:
Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier  "Keyboard0"
  Driver      "keyboard"
  Option      "Protocol"    "Standard"
  Option      "XkbKeycodes" "sun(type5)"
  Option      "XkbModel"    "type5"
  Option      "XkbRules"    "sun"
  Option      "XkbLayout"   "en_US"
  Option      "XkbTypes"    "types/complete"
  Option      "XkbCompat"   "compat/complete"
  Option      "XkbGeometry" "sun(type5unix)"
EndSection
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fajensen wrote:
Emphii wrote:
i-right-i, Doesn't shift+control+backspace help you out from X to check the logs?


Hmmm - This is in 2004, I got the *exact same* problem in 2006 on the very same setup (my graphics is an ATI Rage 3D, w 255MB RAM);

.


I solved it:

The Xorg.conf needs to be *exactly* right on keyboard/mouse setup. Basically X will chrash to some useless resolution but since the keyboard is also chrashed, one has to push the power button.

Once ctrl+alt+bs works it becomes easier ;-)
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