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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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warning to people doing the upgrade:

BACK UP YOUR FSTAB

i just started the upgrade and it seems to have eaten mine


oh man thankyou :X I forget about that too (I thought I removed the ex. fstab from the overlay)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made the upgrade from version 1.5.0 and now i can get xorg to start.
I already have xorg 7.0 instaled before upgrading to version 2.0 of this guide.

I get the fowling error:

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could not open default font 'fixed'


I have read the faq from xorg, but that dont help.

Any ideias?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have compiled libXfont wihtout BDirect e now it works
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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could not open default font 'fixed'

Yep.. Same problem here... I've been fighting with it since yesterday, and almost recompiled world again :P
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This is common when using -Bdirect. IF you are in your LDFLAGS, then do this:

Add to "/etc/portage/bashrc" (Probably a new file)

Kod:
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[[ "$CATEGORY/$P" == "x11-libs/libXfont-1.0.0" ]] \
        && export LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--sort-common -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,-hashvals -Wl,-zdynsort"

Change your LDFLAGS here (But don't include -Bdirect.)

I don't know if it works, but I've found it in the Xorg lockups thread ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blazeu wrote:

I don't know if it works, but I've found it in the Xorg lockups thread ;)


It works for me!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have compiled libXfont wihtout BDirect e now it works


Thanks for the heads up. I fought this for a day. works good now. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7seven7 wrote:
I have compiled libXfont wihtout BDirect e now it works


Thanks for the heads up. I fought this for a day. works good now. :D


WOW, that also solved my kernel-panic-problem, thank you :)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the power went off during emerge -e world :evil: the new baselayout trashed my network. I can fix it (I think) but would have to start the emerge -e world over. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigbob73 wrote:
the power went off during emerge -e world :evil: the new baselayout trashed my network. I can fix it (I think) but would have to start the emerge -e world over. Any suggestions?


That is always bad ;) with the new baselayout it may have overwrote your /etc/conf.d/net, you may need to re-edit those files.

Since the power went out, you will probally have to emerge -e world again :X
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant emerge fontconfig, there seems to be a newer version of it is on the ftp and the old one cant be installed anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do this

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# cd /usr/local/overlays/conrad-guide/media-libs
# rm -r fontconfig
# wget http://snigel.no-ip.com/~nxsty/linux/fontconfig-overlay.tar.bz2
# tar -jxvpf fontconfig-overlay.tar.bz2
# rm fontconfig-overlay.tar.bz2


Then it will emerge.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx for the fast reply, it worked :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello!
I just wanted to know if it's still usefull to prelink with all those linker patches?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found another problem. Xpdf failed to start. There was some problem with "Unresolved inheritance operation". I've recompiled libXt with LDFLAGS="" and problem dissapeared..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't seem to get openmotif to build. I tried it with and without LDFLAGS. here is the error...

/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.0.3-20060209/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lXp
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libXm.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.3-r9/work/openMotif-2.2.3/lib/Xm'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.3-r9/work/openMotif-2.2.3/lib'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r9 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1928: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 966: Called src_compile

!!! make failed, if you have lesstif installed removed it, compile openmotif and recompile lesstif
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

follow up. I was emerging openmotif as part of xorg. when I emerged it my itself, it pulled in the missing dependency. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheater, I set up identical systems with tuned ext3 and reiser4. What's a good way to benchmark each?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cheater, I set up identical systems with tuned ext3 and reiser4. What's a good way to benchmark each?


You can always test with hdparm (hdparm -tT /dev/hda)

And doing emerge -s benchmark, will come up with a number of fs benchmarks.

Also, make sure it is the same hard drive in each install, different hard drives = different speeds. make sure they are both the same ata/sata interface and it may also depend on the manufacturer of the drive.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here are the results...

reiser4...
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 1G 90 94 46252 46 17802 14 607 97 33926 12 122.1 6
Latency 371ms 293ms 1164ms 22818us 132ms 925ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 4365 42 +++++ +++ 3078 34 5020 48 +++++ +++ 4970 59
Latency 197ms 2520us 343ms 362ms 1231us 322ms
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141355769,1G,,90,94,46252,46,17802,14,607,97,33926,12,122.1,6,5,,,,,4365,42,+++++,+++,3078,34,5020,48,+++++,+++,4970,59,371ms,293ms,1164ms,22818us,132ms,925ms,197ms,2520us,343ms,362ms,1231us,322ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 2G 91 97 44823 47 18776 16 594 97 33400 12 114.1 7
Latency 216ms 368ms 571ms 25281us 284ms 626ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 6338 78 +++++ +++ 8795 98 7482 94 +++++ +++ 7688 91
Latency 12814us 1954us 3355us 8415us 18449us 23631us
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141355872,2G,,91,97,44823,47,18776,16,594,97,33400,12,114.1,7,5,,,,,6338,78,+++++,+++,8795,98,7482,94,+++++,+++,7688,91,216ms,368ms,571ms,25281us,284ms,626ms,12814us,1954us,3355us,8415us,18449us,23631us
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 3G 87 97 42865 43 18468 15 605 96 33768 12 94.4 7
Latency 219ms 632ms 493ms 49350us 148ms 861ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 5847 55 +++++ +++ 8717 96 9748 91 +++++ +++ 7925 92
Latency 10115us 2708us 5334us 17054us 135us 24228us
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141352968,3G,,87,97,42865,43,18468,15,605,96,33768,12,94.4,7,5,,,,,5847,55,+++++,+++,8717,96,9748,91,+++++,+++,7925,92,219ms,632ms,493ms,49350us,148ms,861ms,10115us,2708us,5334us,17054us,135us,24228us

tuned ext3...
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 1G 93 97 46309 47 18961 15 607 97 33752 12 136.5 7
Latency 138ms 271ms 439ms 25330us 131ms 503ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 9643 90 +++++ +++ 8978 98 9770 91 +++++ +++ 8361 97
Latency 10084us 1941us 3401us 8844us 1747us 7476us
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141354148,1G,,93,97,46309,47,18961,15,607,97,33752,12,136.5,7,5,,,,,9643,90,+++++,+++,8978,98,9770,91,+++++,+++,8361,97,138ms,271ms,439ms,25330us,131ms,503ms,10084us,1941us,3401us,8844us,1747us,7476us
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 2G 93 98 45359 45 18299 15 608 96 33944 12 113.3 7
Latency 121ms 487ms 450ms 34538us 138ms 492ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 9568 89 +++++ +++ 8595 96 10006 93 +++++ +++ 8421 96
Latency 22613us 1821us 10634us 1925us 16959us 16721us
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141354438,2G,,93,98,45359,45,18299,15,608,96,33944,12,113.3,7,5,,,,,9568,89,+++++,+++,8595,96,10006,93,+++++,+++,8421,96,121ms,487ms,450ms,34538us,138ms,492ms,22613us,1821us,10634us,1925us,16959us,16721us
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP
mauller 3G 90 98 45490 46 19195 16 613 97 33678 12 102.4 8
Latency 141ms 1937ms 548ms 32366us 140ms 709ms
Version 1.93c ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------
mauller -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
5 9603 91 +++++ +++ 8385 89 9971 93 +++++ +++ 8065 93
Latency 1991us 12406us 24852us 2013us 13453us 11672us
1.93c,1.93c,mauller,1,1141353821,3G,,90,98,45490,46,19195,16,613,97,33678,12,102.4,8,5,,,,,9603,91,+++++,+++,8385,89,9971,93,+++++,+++,8065,93,141ms,1937ms,548ms,32366us,140ms,709ms,1991us,12406us,24852us,2013us,13453us,11672us

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot bigbob73.

I think it is not a question, the conrad guide will be using reiser4.
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Here is a change happening to the conrad projects.

Nesl247 is breaking apart to maintain his own personal install guide, I am staying with conrad gentoo projects as always, to bring you all the usual projects.

The new LiveCD 1.0.0 is being built from scratch, so it will be incredible and a lot lighter. it will also feature no-sources 2.6.16 (no _rc release) It will be around soon enough

The new Install Guide 2.5.0 is reverting to old traditions (1.5.0), but keeping that extra special feeling in performance and many other aspects. It will use a gcc 4.1 snapshot ebuild (made by me), glibc-2.3.6-r3 by nxsty but modified by me, the latest binutils 2.16.91* in portage, but patched with Bdirect by me. There will be no root-overlay package.

The new project LuckyLive32/64 will be based off of the new install guide, and will be maintained my mpalancia, it will be an installable X-LiveCD featuring KDE, so you can get conrad quick and pretty ;)

The new project Conrad Stage3's will be based off of the install guide, it will be maintained by me (cheater-conrad), it will feature a few important architectures (i686/athlon-xp/pentium4/pentium3) it will be used for a quick conrad setup.

THe new no-sources release (2.6.16), will be a stable release, it will still feature mutexes, but it wont be as heavy as the current (2.6.16_rc4-no1) kernel, it has tons of performance patches, I hope to make one that still performs, but will be more stable.

Stay tuned ;) You can come by #conrad in freenode if you have any further questions.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@bigbob

I'm sorry nobody can read that crap 8) What do you want to tell us?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sorry nobody can read that crap 8) What do you want to tell us?


There were debates about reiser4 and tuned ext3 in #conrad :-p

He tested it for us.

Reiser4 = slightly worse latency, better thoroughput
tuned ext3 = sligthly better latency, worse throughput

Conclusion = Both are decent, reiser4 needs improvement in latency, which is being worked on now, reiser4 is the better performer, and they both use ABOUT EQUAL cpu usage when ext3 is "tuned" Reiser4 is a better performer overall according to tests, and I vote it more stable than ext3 ;) (reiser4 1.0.5 doesnt break except due to user fault, ext3 corrupts often :X)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I __really__ don't want to start a filesystem flamewar here, but what you said is just not true. I think you can't say that ext3 corrupts more often then reiser. There are so many stories that tell us the opposite, but also a lot othere that probaly confirm what you said.

So nevermind, but for me reiserfs once sucked and now I am using ext3.

Have a nice day.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know reiserfs is completely different from reiser4 since reiser4 is atomic. I've hard rebooted my system several times with reiser4 and it hasn't failed me yet.

I would get a corrupt system with reiserfs and ext3 if I did this too often.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlogiston wrote:
I __really__ don't want to start a filesystem flamewar here, but what you said is just not true. I think you can't say that ext3 corrupts more often then reiser. There are so many stories that tell us the opposite, but also a lot othere that probaly confirm what you said.

So nevermind, but for me reiserfs once sucked and now I am using ext3.

Have a nice day.

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Yes it is completely true.

I believe ext3 has a poor structure and is very weak.

Reiser4 has certainly not corrupted more filesystems, but these stories you read are from 0.9x reiser4, the current version is completely stable, 1.0.5. Reiser4 is perfectly stable, and if you experience problems with the current version it may very well be a bad kernel patch or user fault.

Also, reiserfs = completely different than reiser4, dont even compare them :-p
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