Stage 1/3 Installation Guide for 2005.0 and GCC 3.4.4

eyeL · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:14 pm Post subject:

Ok, I just wanted to make sure that I was able to get the 2.6.14 kernel while installing, instead of rebuilding my kernel later.
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Bob P · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject:

your question worries me. this is an advanced/expert guide, and your question makes it sound like you're not at all familiar with using portage.

if you have problems with the Stage 1/3 Guide then I'll try to help, but if you have Gentoo Fundamentals problems i'll have to point you to the Forum, as the time that i have to offer support is limited.
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prolific · Apprentice Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 237

right now i have a new system built on gcc 3.3.5 running on x86... if i put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in my make.conf file and then do a emerge -u world, i know this will break the system a little bit .. after doing this will doing these two emerges fix everything?

emerge glibc binutils libstdc++-v3 gcc portage
emerge -e system && emerge -e system

Bob P · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:09 am Post subject:

Bob P

becase we keep getting support requests in this thread instead of in the Official Support Thread, i'm just going to remind everyone...

mtamizi · n00b Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 18

gcc-3.4.4-r1 is now stable.

scharkalvin · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:16 am Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:17 am Post subject:

No. I think you're missing something. Gentoo marking GCC 3.4.4 into the stable branch doesn't make this installation method obsolete, because Gentoo is still distributing obsolete media that uses GCC 3.3.5 and doesn't support NPTL! You still need this Guide if you want to install from Gentoo media and end up with a decent toolkit.

Now what REALLY makes this Installation Guide obsolete is the Jackass! media. Ever since May 2005 when Jackass! 2005.0 was released people who use a Pentium-branded processor or an Athlon-XP processor have had no good reason to install from Gentoo media or to perform a Stage 1/3 install.
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warrens · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:18 am Post subject:

scharkalvin · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject:

scharkalvin · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject:

I just checked the on line package data base.

Seems gcc-3.4.4 and gcc-config no longer need the ~x86 keyword.

I'm not sure about libstdc++-v3, glibc, and binutils. They are all current,
but a newer ebuild is available for the same downstream source.

timezone-data is still masked and needs to be in the keywords file.

Bob P · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject:

it depends which ebuilds you want. the only ebuild from the guide that has been marked stable this week is gcc. there are older versions of glibc that are marked stable, but i don't use them. you have to select timezone data, and pay close attention to what's going on with gcc-config and binutils.

in the big scheme of things, you don't need to edit package keywords and the guide doesn't need to be updated, but you can comment out certain ebuilds if you'd rather have older stable branch versions. its all a matter of user preference.

i am not surprised that the official gentoo recommendations "mirror" what i've been doing all along.
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hadees · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 137

Bob P · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:03 am Post subject:

you need to pay attention to datestamps.
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hadees · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 137

I did, the last posts on this were just 5 days ago and I thought the questions made sense here since you had just posted about gcc 3.4.4. I know you have quite a few of these documentation threads and I thought I had looked at them all. Is there an answer to these questions other places?

Bob P · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:54 am Post subject:

this is not a support thread or a support forum. we have a dedicated support thread that is actually a better place to ask support questions and to review the large repository of answers to support questions that have already been asked and answered.

i have to admit, i'm a bit surprised that people continue to ask for support in this thread in spite of the multiple repeated requests not to do so. the big red warning signs are even repeated right on this page. :roll:

i just don't understand how people keep missing them. maybe they're just skipping around when they're reading the threads.

all of these questions have already been asked and answered in detail in the various Stage 1/3 theads. because i'm only one person and i'm spread rather thin with all of my gentoo related projects, i don't have the time to rehash all of these questions and answers that we have already covered in the past year. so instead of wasting alot of time retyping everything, i'll just refer people to the other versions of the Guide AND their Support Threads to research the answers to their questions.

one thing that people have to realize is that when I created the Stage 1/3 installation method and wrote the first Stage 1/3 Guide, it was a revolutionary new way to install Gentoo, and it was an ADVANCED method for ADVANCED/EXPERT users. that was A YEAR AGO.

now that Gentoo has done away with the Stage 1 install in favor of a Stage 1 on a Stage 3 tarball approach, my installation method has become a standard Gentoo installation method instead instead of my pet Advanced/Expert method. the good news is that the Community at large has become familiar enough with this method that Gentoo and the Community at large should have no problem answering anyone's support questions while I focus my attention on working on newer, more cutting edge projects.
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nkmcc · n00b Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

Thanks Bob - nice work.

-Neal

hadees · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 137

Sorry Bob,

I really didn't think it was a support issue because I am not having trouble with my system, your install method worked prefectly

I just wanted to learn more about the reasons you did things the way you did. I will go reread your other support thread.

Bob P · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject:

not a big deal, i just try to keep this thread as short as possible so that people who are trying to follow the Guide aren't obliged to read alot of unnecessary stuff. if you post in the support thread, i'll try to help, but i have to admit that as my projectcount increases, i tend to pay less attention to the older projects that work so well that they are running on autopilot...

btw, here's a link to the first Stage 1/3 Guide in the series. The thread is so old that it may be hard to find, but its the best starting point:

Installing Gentoo 2004.3: Stage 1 NPTL on a Stage 3 Tarball
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Gotterdammerung · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject:

Just passing by to thank the manual, it help a real lot.

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