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ddaas Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 106 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: BlackBerry and IMAPS |
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Hi,
I have 2 BlackBerry Devices which check the IMAPS Server for new emails.
One accout works perfectly. The other BlackBerry device checks for new emails every 15 minutes, but it finds no new mails (and there are).
The BlackBerry devices have their one public IP.
From the dovecot logs, I see that the login was successfull but it seams that the imaps server reported no new email to the client which checked for new emails.
Does anybody know what could it be?
What means from the point of view of the server & client a read/unread mail?
Thanks,
ddaas _________________ Best regards,
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egberts Guru


Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 357 Location: Dimmed Cathode Ray Tube
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
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You will have to contact your Blackberry Server administrator and/or Blackberry support. _________________ Clusters of Fry's Special, AMD 2200, 2 GB DDR, 220 GB (2008.1/desktop, stage 1, -O3) x8
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ddaas Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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ok, but what means read/unread e-mail ? How are they recognized? Is this from the server point of view or from the client, or both? _________________ Best regards,
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egberts Guru


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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:48 am Post subject: |
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The blackberry server (typically resides on the same server as the MS Exchange) is the primary IMAP client.
The progression of signals/packets are:
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<GPRS>
RIM Mobile Base
Blackberry Server
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at this point, it can be configured to go out to several places
Microsoft Exchange
ISP IMAP
ISP POP3
Directly to the Internet (web browsing)
So, it is the blackberry server that needs to be examined for IMAP problem. Some issues maybe date/time synchronization issue (NTP?). _________________ Clusters of Fry's Special, AMD 2200, 2 GB DDR, 220 GB (2008.1/desktop, stage 1, -O3) x8
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ddaas Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 106 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the information. I'll check it with the BlackBerry admin. _________________ Best regards,
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magic919 Advocate

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2182 Location: Berkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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IMAP uses the subfolders of the .maildir. New ones go in new/ and get moved to /cur when read. |
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ddaas Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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hi,
I've checked it and my IMAP server uses the following file structure:
- All the mails are in /home/user/mail in format of mbox (one file for all emails or one file for one folder)
- there is also a /home/user/maill/.imap folder
- For every folder in /home/user/mail there is also a folder with the same name in /home/user/.imap/
ex: there is /home/user/mail/Sent and /home/user/mail/.imap/Sent which contains: .customflags .imap.index .imap.index.data .imap.index.log .imap.index.tree
These files seam to be binary files.
I've tested with some new/old emails and it seams no email is moved based on its status (unread/read). Maybe this info is held in the files from /home/user/mail/.imap/folder_name
Anyway, it is not so clear. Maybe I must read the imap protocol - RFC 3501
What is your opinion? _________________ Best regards,
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magic919 Advocate

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2182 Location: Berkshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Okay. I see. My IMAP server moves stuff around but also uses index files. Your one must be using those to tell the new email from the rest, without actually moving any. Quick check of the modified dates on the files should prove this. |
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