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Piper Dawn
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| n0n wrote: | | Piper Dawn wrote: | | Seems to be a showstopper that should have been picked up by now, but I'm willing to accept it as an error in my (admittedly quite clumsy) installation. |
When things like that happen, it's generally a problem with the video driver being used at the time. What driver are you using? |
i810, on an 845GL chipset.
edit: also, I'm running xorg-server-0.99.1-r9, and version 1.4.0-r3 of the driver. |
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4nykey
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Hello.
If anybody knows, what is Xv status, is it supposed to work out of the box/not working yet/requires extra moves/packages?
I've got 'S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 02)',
| Code: | Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "savage"
VendorName "S3 Inc."
BoardName "Savage 4"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection |
| Quote: | xvinfo
X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
no adaptors present |
I see, there's an '--enable-xv' in xorg-server config script, disabled by default. Tried to tick it, still no xv (hence no telly  ).
| Quote: | xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
*** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
*** driver. |
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r00tzz
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Phlogiston. wrote: | Before I'll try this modular thing... Is anyone out there using this with nvidia driver? Got it anyone to work?
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YES!!! After re-emerging nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx it did work! |
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Phlogiston
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| Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| r00tzz wrote: | | Phlogiston. wrote: | Before I'll try this modular thing... Is anyone out there using this with nvidia driver? Got it anyone to work?
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YES!!! After re-emerging nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx it did work! |
hmm thats good news... probably when I find time, I'll try this out...
No other problems so far? Did you follow normal howto? Can you tell us something about perfomance changes? 
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irondog
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I've been running xorg-modular on two systems for a while now. For nvidia with binary drivers GLX doesn't work. When enabling GLX the server starts but crashes after 1 second.
For my ATI computer only the fbdev driver works. Everything else makes my screen become black until reboot.
For both systems xmodmap doesn't work correctly. I'm not going back to monolithic. I'm waiting for new, more stable versions patiently. In other words: it works good enough. I think devs have problems locating causes for some bugs. The project is big and some things just work in monolithic, but are broken on modular. They are weeks behind scedule.
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r00tzz
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Phlogiston. wrote: | | No other problems so far? |
Problems I see was emerge every other package needed for my apps to run again... A LOT of libraries was needed to run many programs...
| Phlogiston. wrote: | | Did you follow normal howto? |
Yes, I've followed the how-to on the first post
| Phlogiston. wrote: | | Can you tell us something about perfomance changes? |
Just start time was slightly better... after everything is running no diference (at least no noticiable)...
| irondog wrote: | | For nvidia with binary drivers GLX doesn't work. When enabling GLX the server starts but crashes after 1 second. |
No problems here just re-emerged both nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx.... Did you check your ModulePath part? |
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Sprotte
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Bonkie
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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| Voltago wrote: | Before you start, create copy the folder '/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server' to your overlay and add the line
| Code: | | PROVIDE="virtual/x11" |
somewhere at the beginning of the ebuild and add the line
| Code: | | virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-server |
to '/etc/portage/profile/virtuals' to stop portage nagging about missing dependencies. |
It also helps to add
| Code: | | virtual/xft x11-libs/libXft |
Also just switched to modular X and im hoping I did everything allright
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Xdm wont start, keeps complaining:
| Code: | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
xdm error (pid 27383): /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory while loading /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so |
Cant find it in x11-libs so what am I missing ??
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Voltago
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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| Bonkie wrote: |
It also helps to add
| Code: | | virtual/xft x11-libs/libXft |
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If you really want to use the fontserver, yes. But I urge everyone not to use this obsolete piece of software. Use fontconfig instead.
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Voltago
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Bonkie wrote: | Xdm wont start, keeps complaining:
| Code: | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
xdm error (pid 27383): /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory while loading /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so |
Cant find it in x11-libs so what am I missing ?? |
Are you sure you cleaned out your old X11 properly before emerging the new stuff? Since all libs (except modules and drivers) for modular xorg go directly into /usr/lib, nothing should be linked against /usr/lib/X11/<whatever>.so. Consider wiping out and re-emerging all your X stuff. |
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Bonkie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Voltago wrote: | | Consider wiping out and re-emerging all your X stuff. |
Could u be more specific ???
I followed the modular X howto as far as I can remember, and I did a revdep-rebuild but the problem still exists.
| Code: | # ldd /usr/bin/xdm
linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0xb7f3c000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e52000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7e4e000)
libXaw7.so.7 => /usr/lib/libXaw7.so.7 (0xb7df4000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7ddf000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb7d94000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7d8d000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7d75000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7d67000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7d63000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0xb7d35000)
libpam.so.0 => /lib/libpam.so.0 (0xb7d2c000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c0f000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7c0c000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f61000) |
I dont have much in /usr/lib/X11 at all (certainly not libXdmGreet.so) so I dont understand why xdm keeps complaining about it 
| Code: | # tail /var/log/xdm.log
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Sep 26 20:24:26 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
xdm error (pid 3774): /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory while loading /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so
FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Excuse me, but what is that often-seen DRI-Support good for? What is DRI generally?
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Husky
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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| Voltago wrote: |
A few additional considerations:
[list=1][*]You should know what you are doing (to a certain degree).
[*]Before you start, create copy the folder '/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server' to your overlay and add the line
| Code: | | PROVIDE="virtual/x11" |
somewhere at the beginning of the ebuild and add the line
| Code: | | virtual/x11 x11-base/xorg-server |
to '/etc/portage/profile/virtuals' to stop portage nagging about missing dependencies.
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shouldn't xorg-server at least also provide virtual/glu and virtual/opengl? |
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n0n
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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| Husky wrote: | | shouldn't xorg-server at least also provide virtual/glu and virtual/opengl? |
Those are provided by media-libs/mesa under the modular heirarchy, seems. |
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arkaine
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm...let me try and figure out how I'm gonna do this...
I have tried over and over, with no sucess, to get modular x to work. My xorg.conf seems fine. Also I dont get any errors when I startx, besides one
"(WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b:0xe0000000 e:0xe8000000 correcting
*** If unresolved symbols were reported they may not
*** be the reason for the server aborting.
Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x14a) [0x80bb2da]
1: [0xffffe420]
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting.
XIO: Fatal IO Error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0"
after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
Man I wish I knew how to copy shit into links ( yah I know , use the middle click button...it doesn't work).
Anyways, I'm using the nvidia drivers (nvidia-kernel / nvidia-glx). I've tried emerging them multiple times, with different kernels. I talked with a guy from a different thread with what seemed to be the same problem, and he said adding
BusId "PCI:2:0:0"
and
Option "NvAGP "0"
helped him get it working. But I did that and I'm still xless. |
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n0n
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| arkaine wrote: | | "(WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b:0xe0000000 e:0xe8000000 correcting |
The errors you're getting sound rather scary - is there any particular reason why you need the modular version, or can you cope with just using the most recent stable? If you don't mind just using 6.8.2-rwhatever, I'd just rip out the modular stuff and emerge that, and make sure that your system works using that.
Offhand, I'd suspect either flaky hardware or some problem with CFLAGS, etc... |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| n0n wrote: | | arkaine wrote: | | "(WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b:0xe0000000 e:0xe8000000 correcting |
The errors you're getting sound rather scary - is there any particular reason why you need the modular version, or can you cope with just using the most recent stable? If you don't mind just using 6.8.2-rwhatever, I'd just rip out the modular stuff and emerge that, and make sure that your system works using that.
Offhand, I'd suspect either flaky hardware or some problem with CFLAGS, etc... |
Not quite that simple. I tried that... and then xorg couldn't find my nvidia module, even after I emerged all that crud again... I even did an emerge -e world just incase, no luck. But yah, I don't really NEED to have modular x...I just enjoy screwing around with new stuff that other people are scared of (plus I like forcing myself to use the console  . It's funny how much stuff you can do without when you really have to). But yah, there is probably a solution to that too, oh well.
As for flaky hardware, this error never appeared until I started using modular x. I stepped the cflags down to -O2 instead of the -O3 I had been been using, no luck. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| arkaine wrote: | | I tried that... and then xorg couldn't find my nvidia module, even after I emerged all that crud again... |
When troubleshooting things like this, it's really nice to be able to have a working version to reference. The modular xorg builds, in fact, don't yet work completely without taking various bits and pieces from a previous Xorg installation (most of which are documented in spyderous' guide, I believe... I had to move over some locale and xkb information as well before my install was working properly). When you've got something that works then you can do some comparisons with the stuff that's not working. Because the modular Xorg builds are still beta quality and not supported nearly as well yet, you'll honestly have a much easier time getting the stable Xorg build going first. Then once you've got that you'll probably have a better sense of how to tackle doing the modular stuff.
That's just what I'd recommend though. Good luck in any case... |
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[quote="Voltago"]I'm using i810 too and it's working fine (i915GM hardware). Try my xorg.conf (you might want different screen and input options, of course).
Don't worry about font path error messages, they're mostly
I have a question.
Have you ever tried a framebuffer and VBERestore option?
In the previous monolithic version of xorg, I had no problem.
But, it is no more possible to return the console with framebuffer.
I'm using dell 700m, which has 1280x800 wide screen, but it is possible to run only on 1024x768 frame buffer screen.
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Voltago
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| btlee wrote: |
I have a question.
Have you ever tried a framebuffer and VBERestore option?
In the previous monolithic version of xorg, I had no problem.
But, it is no more possible to return the console with framebuffer.
I'm using dell 700m, which has 1280x800 wide screen, but it is possible to run only on 1024x768 frame buffer screen. |
VBERestore in conjunction with fbdev? No, haven't tried it, sorry. But have you tried to use the i810 driver and the 855resolution tool (in portage) to get full resolution? |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Voltago wrote: | | btlee wrote: |
I have a question.
Have you ever tried a framebuffer and VBERestore option?
In the previous monolithic version of xorg, I had no problem.
But, it is no more possible to return the console with framebuffer.
I'm using dell 700m, which has 1280x800 wide screen, but it is possible to run only on 1024x768 frame buffer screen. |
VBERestore in conjunction with fbdev? No, haven't tried it, sorry. But have you tried to use the i810 driver and the 855resolution tool (in portage) to get full resolution? |
I used i810 driver and 855 resolution, so i got full resolution except frame buffer.
In console, the screen resolution was 1024x768 with vesafb.
Thanks for your quick answer.
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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I've skimmed through that, and I suspect I know the answer (no), but is it possible to run modular X alongside an existing X? Are there any plans to?
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n0n
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: The modular X server bugs, annoyances and solutions thre |
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| pjp wrote: | | I've skimmed through that, and I suspect I know the answer (no), but is it possible to run modular X alongside an existing X? Are there any plans to? |
Right now the stable X series and the modular stuff write to the same file locations, so it wouldn't work out like that. If there's some way to specify an install prefix via Portage, I suppose it may be possible to have the modular stuff install somewhere else, since I think they're using the more common autoconf-style installations. I imagine that'd be pretty tricky to get working properly though.
It'd probably be easier to overlay your own ebuild for the stable X which #defines a different install prefix, and then let the modular stuff install where it wants to. |
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*nod* Thanks. I'm on AMD64, and can't be that much of a guniea pig, so I'll have to wait. X is probably not a good place to cut one's ebuild teeth 
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