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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: xdm build seems to be incomplete Reply with quote

xdm build seems to be incomplete:
"xdm info (pid 25654): Couldn't connect to PRNGD socket "/tmp/entropy": No such file or di
rectory
_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/hotzenplotz:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

This is a pre-release version of the X.Org X11.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
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X Window System Version 6.99.99.900 (7.0.0 RC 0)
Release Date: 18 December 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, 0.99.1
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.13-rc6 i686
Current Operating System: Linux hotzenplotz 2.6.13-rc7 #3 Wed Aug 24 08:44:18 CEST 2005 i
686
Build Date: 23 August 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 24 22:55:54 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) ****INVALID MEM ALLOCATION**** b: 0xf0000000 e: 0xf4000000 correcting^G
xdm error (pid 25664): /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so: cannot open shared object file: N
o such file or directory while loading /usr/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so

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maybe the source files under ./greeter aren't build?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I've just tried emerging the xorg-server-0.99.1-r5 following the migration guide that Donnie Berkholtz produced. I'm using a hardened system, so all the pic/pie stuff is in there and I've had trouble with modular systems and pic/pie before (gstreamer, qt, etc). I've tried starting it up and lots of the modules say there are undefined symbol errors, nv, fbdev, vesa and vga all say they have them. I've also tried a modified ebuild for nvidia-glx to drop the files in the right place and that mentions undefined symbols (specifically SecurityLookupIDByType). The only indication that anyone else has seen this was a post earlier in this thread by clotho67. He was experiencing the same problem as me:

Code:
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so: undefined symbol: fbdevHWMapMMIO


and his solution was brief to say the least:

Quote:
I find the problem. It related to the LDFLAG '-z now'.


I've now tried recompiling xorg-server and the xf86-video-nv driver using as many varieties and combinations of not stripping (which was mentioned in the migration guide) and altering the LDFLAGS to affect the binding (however that's very much shot in the dark work).

I'm currently recompiling xorg-server with a vanilla gcc config rather than the hardened one to see if that affects it. However, it'd be best to get it working with a hardened profile (since that was one of the ideas of going to dlloader).

Has anybody else come across this? Does anyone have any ideas, suggestions, solutions? Is this a bug, or just me being daft? I'll give pretty much anything a try, so please, if you've an idea, let me know and I'll try it out...

Thanks,

Mike 5:\
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure enough,

Using vanilla gcc to compile the xf86-video-nv driver meant it resolved all the symbols and started up. Any suggestions as to what might be causing this, or whether it's a fully fledged bug? Any help would be appreciated, it'd be really nice to be able to build Xorg modularly in a hardened environment...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the saga continues,

I recompiled all the packages I'd installed since I started this modular-x experiment using the vanilla gcc specs. The entire thing built, but the nvidia kernel driver still says it's missing a SecurityLookupTypeByID symbol (which I've found mention of in dix.h and Resource.h in /usr/include/xorg). Could be I've just got some files in the wrong place, but I'm giving up on that. The reason I was trying so hard with the video driver is because the standard nv one seems *really* slow and I also discovered the reason for this. Whilst xorg says it's loading up dri and all the bits and pieces that go with it and Xorg.0.log says everything's fine, xdpyinfo doesn't list them anywhere, not even a "Direct Rendering: No" line, nothing, and I don't think there's any DRI going on because dragging a window around the screen pushes the CPU to full, and releasing it the CPU drops again, which I don't recall happening on my previous setup. So I'm gonna put this one back on the shelf too, at least until Spyderous comes back and we've got more help on these topics...

I still be watching the thread so if anyone comes up with any solutions or figures anything else, post it here please.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I don't have a solution for you, but the nv driver in xorg (not the nvidia proprietary driver) doesn't support dri (that's why you see direct rendering: No). But it seems like in the xorg cvs, the nv driver just got EXA support, which means that it should be working pretty fast for 2d operations even with composite enabled.. there are still a few issues.. but maybe in the next -rc1 release the bugs will be addressed..
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh,

Ok, that's very helpful, thanks very much! I'll keep my eyes open for the next release then.

I only hope they've managed to figure out why compiling it with the hardened specs breaks it too...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ikelos wrote:
Ahh,

Ok, that's very helpful, thanks very much! I'll keep my eyes open for the next release then.

I only hope they've managed to figure out why compiling it with the hardened specs breaks it too...

Mike 5:)


I did see in a bugzilla, it said that hardened specs use '-z now' LDFLAGS by default. This maybe the problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Ok,

Well that makes some more sense, I guess lazy bindings could be a bad thing. I'm still a little uncertain since if everything is loaded at start-up and nothing delays bindings, the plugin should be able to find whatever it's looking for, shouldn't it? And if it can't then this is an actual bug? Hmmm, I wish I knew more about this stuff. I tried defining my LDFLAGS specifically but I'm not entirely certain of which flags I should have been using, presumably I ought to have tried -Wl,-z,combreloc. However that still doesn't explain why it needs that. I think I'll file a bug once I give it another (not for a few weeks probably, I've only just got my system back to a working state)...

Thanks for clearing that up clotho!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Missing titlebar Reply with quote

ohm314 wrote:
Hi

I just finished compiling the new xorg and I am testing it right now.. emerging went quite good.. except for the libXfixes and libXcursor where the Manifest files have wrong md5 sums and filesizes for the ebuild files.

The main problem I have right now, is that the windows of any application dont have any window decorations (the top bar) and I cannot switch between windows... and I cannot resize any window
I am using xfce 4.2.2

does anyone have an idea what to do about this?

greets

ohm314


Same problem here. No ideas how to fix that, for now I was forced to use KDE because of that ;(
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still can't get xmodmap working for evdev_drv (even with the patch I submitted for libX11 and wich is in portage now).
Apperently there is more to be fixed to solve the bugs. Also my keyboard configuration is broken, can't get deadkeys and mode switch working.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: xrdb and gnome-settings-daemon Reply with quote

I can't get gnome-settings-daemon to load with Xorg modular. I would like to know if someone else running gnome 2.10.2 has been able to get all of their settings to apply. I have run a couple of straces on the program and I keep getting errors with xrdb.

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xrdb -merge
Can't open display ' '


I would just like to have my gnome settings to apply.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: gnome and xorg 6.8.99.15 and xorg-6.99 modular Reply with quote

I can get my gnome-settings-daemon to work correctly when I install the 6.8.99.15 version of X.org, but I can't get it to work in xorg modular. A little help would make the transition to xorg modular possible. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've resolved the problem with nvidia missing SecurityLookupTypeByID, the problem is that not all the configuration options are selected, when building the server . There are some dependancies missing and I have installed some more libraries in search of this, but what really matters is the following switch, which should be added on configuring:
Code:
                --enable-xcsecurity

after that is manually copying of the opengl-libraries, because eselect does not work and now all works, I mean gnome with opengl - I've played a little bit Castle Wolfenstein, there were some problem with enlightment, but this is for some other exploration::)))
Probably someone must open a bug about this.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else experiencing DGA trouble with the modular xorg? I have the protocol headers and the library installed, haven't disabled it in xorg.conf and yet DGA seems to be missing (vmware complains about this). What could be the reason?
Driver is 'i810' and hardware is i915GM.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: gnome and xorg 6.8.99.15 and xorg-6.99 modular Reply with quote

rapsure wrote:
I can get my gnome-settings-daemon to work correctly when I install the 6.8.99.15 version of X.org, but I can't get it to work in xorg modular. A little help would make the transition to xorg modular possible. :)


Same problem here. I get a message on startup saying I can only run one xsettings manager at once. Most things work, except for the window list. This is a pretty important feature though, since I quickly lose track of all the open windows without it. I've switched back to KDE until this is solved.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gergan Penkov wrote:
I've resolved the problem with nvidia missing SecurityLookupTypeByID, the problem is that not all the configuration options are selected, when building the server . There are some dependancies missing and I have installed some more libraries in search of this, but what really matters is the following switch, which should be added on configuring:
Code:
                --enable-xcsecurity

after that is manually copying of the opengl-libraries, because eselect does not work and now all works, I mean gnome with opengl - I've played a little bit Castle Wolfenstein, there were some problem with enlightment, but this is for some other exploration::)))
Probably someone must open a bug about this.


Excellent! Thanks for finding that, I saw that the xorg-server-0.99.1-r7 came out with the fix last night. I'm quite tempted to try it again, now all I've got to do is figure out how to jigger the linuxwacom package to compile against the new sdk location properly... 5:)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voltago wrote:
Anybody else experiencing DGA trouble with the modular xorg? I have the protocol headers and the library installed, haven't disabled it in xorg.conf and yet DGA seems to be missing (vmware complains about this). What could be the reason?
Driver is 'i810' and hardware is i915GM.

Try rebuilding the xorg-server - I don't have any problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gergan Penkov wrote:
Try rebuilding the xorg-server - I don't have any problems.

Didn't help. What video adapter are you using?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nvidia, but I have installed probably all the new libraries and rebuilded the xorg-server (and nvidia-binary driver - I didn't try it with nv) numerous times, because the standard emerge breaks all possible packages on the system.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a hp pavilion dv4060 laptop with i915Gm vga, using driver i810. Cant get dri working correctly, thought that I should try out xorg-x11-6.8.99.900, but it isnt in the portage,
How can I install it and try it out?

its located here: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/X11R6.9-RC0

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentood wrote:
I have a hp pavilion dv4060 laptop with i915Gm vga, using driver i810. Cant get dri working correctly, thought that I should try out xorg-x11-6.8.99.900, but it isnt in the portage,
How can I install it and try it out?

its located here: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/X11R6.9-RC0

cheers

It's in portage allright, but you have to unmask it. Edit your /etc/portage/package.unmask and emerge away... ;)

I'm running the modular version (7.0/6.9.99), so I don't have the details handy.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have unmasked, but only 6.8.99.15 exists, not the 6.8.99.900-rc0.

What do you mean with modular version? How can I also install the modular version?

cheers

btw, I just installed the 6.8.99.900-rc0, but cant run it, get this error:
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(EE) failed too load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0)

Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The module path has changed. You need to edit you xorg.conf. It's covered further up in this thread
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright there is some stuff I dont really understand..

What tha hell is modular X? I have read the previous posts and none say anything about it..
why use modular X??
why emerge xorg-server? I mean i have never seen this been emerged when I have emerged xorg-x11?

Any kind of enlightment is welcomed..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just read here: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ModularizationProposal
but I think ppl already answered it... anyway, 6.9 will be identical to 7.0... the only difference will be the one being monolithic and the other one modular...
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