WIN4LIN

pinnockio · Apprentice Joined: 08 Jun 2002 Posts: 162

Hello,

Does anybody has got any experience with Win4Lin under Gentoo and where I could get a working version without paying for a licence fee? I first want to try before I buy :-.

Kind regards,

A belgian Gentoo user ;-)

taskara · Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:06 pm Post subject:

they don't have a trial version, but they do have a money back gaurantee.
u can buy it, and if u can't use it, then they refund in full.

pinnockio · Apprentice Joined: 08 Jun 2002 Posts: 162

Well,

I know that VMWare can't be installed the standard way in Gentoo because of it not using any rc0 ... rc6 runlevels. Or are there some other kind a like programs available beside win4lin, bosh, Wine, VMWare (the free unstable ?86? project). The fact is I only wan't to use a stupid dictionary written for Windows, but doesn't work under Wine because of it making to much use of child-windows :-(

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Kind regards,

a belgian Gentoo user

delta407 · Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:15 pm Post subject:

Correct, VMware can't be installed the standard way; hence, there's an ebuild for it. "emerge vmware-workstation"

pinnockio · Apprentice Joined: 08 Jun 2002 Posts: 162

Oeps, didn't notice there was an ebuild available for it :oops:

Thx!!

a belgian Gentoo user ;-)

cf25 · Apprentice Joined: 20 Jun 2002 Posts: 158

actually win4lin has a trial version. you just have to email them and ask for it. they will send you a serial # that expires in like 30 days or something. but you get the whole working version. its kinda nice actually. i tried it back when i had a suse workstation. its kindof a pain to have to install windows in linux though. seems sacreligious!

klieber · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:20 pm Post subject:

I've had extremely good luck with VMWare -- it's a robust, mature, stable product. The downside, of course, is that it costs a fair chunk of change. (though you can save money if you're a student/teacher/professor or know of one who can buy it at the academic price.)

It does have a 30-day trial version and, as delta407 pointed out, an ebuild as well.

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Robert · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:31 pm Post subject:

I use Win4Lin on Gentoo and have also used Vmware. Win4Lin is much much much faster than Vmware, but has a few limitations that Vmware does not have.

Win4Lin runs Win98se seemingly at full speed, but does not support directx and directdraw which rules out several popular video formats and about 99% of games. Win4Lin does not work with the preempt patches and Netraverse will not likely add preempt support until some major distro like Redhat starts using it (according to them). It also does not support USB. In addition, from what I understand Win4Lin will never run Windows 2000 or XP (bleh), but is limited to the dos based Win9x versions. Win4Lin does not support the Gentoo Kernel, so you must patch a vanilla Kernel with 2 patches available from the Netraverse website. Currently I am using 2.4.19-pre10 w/the low latency patch and the Win4Lin patches (applied before the 2.4.19-pre patches) and it's running great.

All shortcomings aside, Win4Lin does not even compare to Vmware when it comes to speed. Im running an AthlonXP 2000+ on a A7v333 (KT333) w/ 768megs of DDR333 and Vmware is still to slow for my tastes. The only real advantage it has over Win4Lin (for me) is support for Preempt, the Gentoo Kernel and USB.

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klieber · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 10:54 pm Post subject:

Robert · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:29 pm Post subject:

abhishek · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 5:33 am Post subject:

I think win98 is the most useful oos to dualboot with anyway, becuae as far as i know, wine works the best with it(dont know if it wors with 2k). Microsoft support used to be somewhat decent(although this support is far better:)) I remember my probs got transferred pretty high sometimes, and i think my win98 was out of warrenty. Oh well. Loosing suppourt from ms shouldnt really influence ur os choice. Even if they suppourt ME but not 98, 98 is 50 billion times better.

klieber · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2002 11:19 am Post subject:

sleon · n00b Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Posts: 23

WIN4LIN rocks!! But it works only with kernels until 2.4.18(there is steel no patch for 2.4.19 to make win4lin conform kernel)
Also you need to install and compile rpm , to be able to install win4lin.

But then all programms , such as phtoshop 7 oder flash mx oder alls programms, that don't need
DirectX will work without any problems!
WIN4LIN is much quicker than VMWARE

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Robert · Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 12:22 am Post subject:

sleon · n00b Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Posts: 23

@Robert
Oh, thx.
Didn't know that

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Robert · Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2002 6:27 am Post subject:

Heh, guess I am just a bit late since 2.4.19 is just came out ;p. Netraverse is beta testing preempt support. Hopefully it will be in the new kernel patches ;)

-darkstar- · n00b Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 16

I've patched the kernel (2.4.19) but the installer says that there's an error while loading modules... what can i do?

Thx

ebrostig · Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: problems...

-darkstar- · n00b Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 16

thank you, but i've resolved... the rpm install the init.d file a wrong location... now all works perfectly...

ejwahl · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:10 am Post subject:

Robert,

Where can I get the 2.4.19-pre/rc patches you refer to?

Thanks,
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Robert · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:32 am Post subject:

ejwahl · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:16 am Post subject:

Thank you!

Are you using the low-latency patch as well or is that not needed since you have the preempt patch?
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Robert · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 3:34 am Post subject:

ejwahl · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:06 am Post subject:

Robert,

I patched a vanilla 2.4.19 kernel with the Win4Lin, mki-adapter, low-latency and preempt patches and all went well. I have no benchmarks to measure any performance gains but it **seems** pretty snappy. Everything's working as it should, including Win4Lin, of course.

Thanks for the patch recommendations!
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divinerites · n00b Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 15