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arcterex
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 Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:04 am Post subject: Messed up GNOME 2.10 Menus with gnome-menu? (SOLVED) |
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I recently installed the (masked) gnome-menus-2.10.1 into my nicely running gnome 2.10 system, and now my main applications and desktop menus have gone a bit nuts. Now Under 'Desktop', which used to have just the standard GNOME Administration/Preferences menus, suddenly now I have several 'Applications' menus (with various gnome apps in them, gtoaster, emacs), a games folder, a graphics folder and settings and system menus containing links into the old gnome 1.x control panel. My Applications folder is likewise flooded with a settings folder, another applications sub-menu (containing the same apps as under my Desktop folder), and other random bits like a 'Internet' folder containing kdevmon (something I probably installed at some point, but have no idea where or how).
One of the things that is in the gnome-menus package IIRC is compatibility with various freedesktop.org standards, which is great, but I'd really like my old menus back!! Removing the gnome-menus package didn't seem to do anything, any help appreciated!
EDIT - To fix up the applications dir, just had to delete stuff in /usr/share/gnome/apps for the applications menu, thanks https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-305240-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-400.html. Only way I've found to remove entries from the Desktop menu is to remove the programs themselves via emerge -C. Not a big deal as they're a bit old, but still a pain :\ |
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wzzrd
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Kicking this thread for two reasons:
1. I cannot solve it by myself, and unmerging apps is NOT a sollution.
2. I can't seem to find it in bugzilla, so developers might not know about this. This might be a convenient place to gather information. I'll file a bug later today...
3. Killing an entire homedir doesn't help, so it's not something in ~/.menus, as I thought before.
Anyway, I have the same problem. Does anyone else - except from me and TS - have this? I can't imagine we're the only ones... |
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Lokheed
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| wzzrd wrote: | Kicking this thread for two reasons:
1. I cannot solve it by myself, and unmerging apps is NOT a sollution.
2. I can't seem to find it in bugzilla, so developers might not know about this. This might be a convenient place to gather information. I'll file a bug later today...
3. Killing an entire homedir doesn't help, so it's not something in ~/.menus, as I thought before.
Anyway, I have the same problem. Does anyone else - except from me and TS - have this? I can't imagine we're the only ones... |
Its already been fixed in cvs. Its a legacy thing that has now been removed.
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feardapenguin
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| If this ever was fixed it has returned with gnome-menus-2.10.1. I didn't notice until today but it must have been this way since my last update to gnome-menus-2.10.1 on June 5th. |
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Lokheed
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| feardapenguin wrote: | | If this ever was fixed it has returned with gnome-menus-2.10.1. I didn't notice until today but it must have been this way since my last update to gnome-menus-2.10.1 on June 5th. |
Do you have any idea how old 2.10.1 is? It has been fixed, gnome-menus-2.10.1 is far before the fix was checked in.
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thesnowman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Lokheed wrote: | | Do you have any idea how old 2.10.1 is? It has been fixed, gnome-menus-2.10.1 is far before the fix was checked in. |
Regardless of how old 2.10.1 is, I like to use portage to manage the applications I have installed. I do not want to install software from CVS. There is no newer version available in the portage tree. So, has there been a release of gnome-menus that fixes this problem?
As the maintainer of gnome-menus marked 2.10.1 as stable on 14 Jun 2005 all GNOME users are now going to be installing this version. Perhaps if a bug had been raised two months ago we would not be in this situation. |
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Lokheed
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| thesnowman wrote: | | So, has there been a release of gnome-menus that fixes this problem? |
Yes, 2.11.X, but that cannot be installed without updating Gnome to 2.11.X and bumping up to the new HAL 5 API.
You know Portage is not the end all and be all of the Gnome world and just because thats all you want to use (stable x86) dont act so egocentrical. Its been fixed upstream, what more do you want???
Why dont you get the patch and apply it to your 2.10.1 ebuild or suggest it on gentoo.bugs? Not like this bug is anything more than trivial with a fix easy enough for chimps to learn.
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thesnowman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Lokheed wrote: | | Yes, 2.11.X, but that cannot be installed without updating Gnome to 2.11.X and bumping up to the new HAL 5 API. |
Nor can it be installed through portage, Gentoo's package manager.
| Lokheed wrote: | | You know Portage is not the end all and be all of the Gnome world and just because thats all you want to use (stable x86) dont act so egocentrical. |
Do you mean egocentric? As I stated in my last post, portage is how I like to manage the apps I have installed, GNOME included. Portage is, after all, the be all and end all of Gentoo. I'm sure there's a lot more Gentoo users than just myself using stable x86.
| Lokheed wrote: | | Its been fixed upstream, what more do you want??? |
For this package not to be marked as stable when there are known issues with it.
| Lokheed wrote: | | Why dont you get the patch and apply it to your 2.10.1 ebuild or suggest it on gentoo.bugs? |
May just do that. |
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Lokheed
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| thesnowman wrote: | | Lokheed wrote: | | Yes, 2.11.X, but that cannot be installed without updating Gnome to 2.11.X and bumping up to the new HAL 5 API. |
1) Nor can it be installed through portage, Gentoo's package manager.
| Lokheed wrote: | | You know Portage is not the end all and be all of the Gnome world and just because thats all you want to use (stable x86) dont act so egocentrical. |
2) Do you mean egocentric? As I stated in my last post, portage is how I like to manage the apps I have installed, GNOME included. Portage is, after all, the be all and end all of Gentoo. I'm sure there's a lot more Gentoo users than just myself using stable x86.
| Lokheed wrote: | | Its been fixed upstream, what more do you want??? |
3) For this package not to be marked as stable when there are known issues with it.
| Lokheed wrote: | | Why dont you get the patch and apply it to your 2.10.1 ebuild or suggest it on gentoo.bugs? |
4) May just do that. |
Refer to #'s above:
1) Yes you can. I did. Make yourself some ebuilds (version bumps mostly) and put them in your overlay. I have the latest versions and had them installed through portage.
2) As last stated, yes you can make ebuilds. This bug is a nuissance at best, and not a show stopper, not even for x86 stable.
3) Known issues? Maybe they didnt know? Maybe its not that big of a concern? Maybe its just not big enough to block Gnome going x86???
4) Great. If you do that, why not submit the patch and the ebuild in bugs.gentoo?
You are making this sound like a seg fault on starting gnome-menus...its a minor bug with an easy fix, get over it.
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Lokheed, you seem to be taking this issue very personally. I'm sorry you're feeling so emotionally attached to it, but see no need for your "chimps" or "get over it" remarks. This is an open forum where people should be able to discuss topics, or request support, without coming under fire from others who maybe don't agree with them.
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feardapenguin
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| Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Geez, I had no idea I was starting a flame war.
Snowman, your points are dead-on-the-money but jerks like this just aren't worth it. Life is short enough as it is without wasting energy on them. What do you say we nominate Lokheed for the "Bad Attitude of the Month" award and move on?
Maybe your bug report will get some attention focused on this problem in the 2.10.1 version and we'll get a fix without having to follow Lokheed to the exalted heights of bleeding-edge CVS. After all, we mere mortal chimps aren't worthy!! 
Quick, someone hand me a barf bag. |
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